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Old 06-08-2016, 05:03 PM
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I would prefer to not do any trimming if possible. I was looking at what you did with your truck with the 2.5 level & the 1 inch rear block. That looks really sweet. I am looking at wheels, but don't know how to compare the offsets to the stock wheels - I have the 20 x 8.5 six spoke stock wheels.
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Originally Posted by ToppDog
I would prefer to not do any trimming if possible. I was looking at what you did with your truck with the 2.5 level & the 1 inch rear block. That looks really sweet. I am looking at wheels, but don't know how to compare the offsets to the stock wheels - I have the 20 x 8.5 six spoke stock wheels.
The stock wheels are all +44 with the exception of the Raptor wheels are like +36 or something. It's an artform matching tires/wheels/levels haha is there a specific wheel you want or a specific tire size you want? There is some give and take depending on what you're looking for.


For instance, if you get taller tires, be careful with a 0 or negative offset, as you will rub. If you get wider tires, the +44 on the stock wheels and a 12.5" wide tire will likely rub your UCA. There is give and take for everything
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I was thinking of either the 205 Tempest by Ultra in 18x9 or 17x8, paired with some Toyo Open Country M/Ts.
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Originally Posted by Leukippes
Hi, I'm a newbie, I own a 2012 FX4 Ecoboost that I'm planning on setting up for off roading.

Someone on some other post I made recommended I do a 4" lift, in some other group someone said "putting a lift kit is not good for you truck going off road cause it messes something up", but that just a level kit would be better.

What do YOU guys recommend?

Suspension lift with Bilstein 5100 all around if you're on a budget, Fox off road shocks/struts if you have the cash.
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Default Strut spacer on lifted struts

I own a 2015 F-150 Fx4 on a 6” rough country lift and I’m currently upgrading my struts and springs to the lifted struts. I was wondering if it’s safe to add just a 1/2” or 1” strut spacer on top of the 6” lifted struts?
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Originally Posted by Merka21
I own a 2015 F-150 Fx4 on a 6” rough country lift and I’m currently upgrading my struts and springs to the lifted struts. I was wondering if it’s safe to add just a 1/2” or 1” strut spacer on top of the 6” lifted struts?
No can do. You would be putting a spacer on top of another spacer. There is already a spacer as part of the lift kit.
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Originally Posted by 99Zeus99
Suspension lift with Bilstein 5100 all around if you're on a budget, Fox off road shocks/struts if you have the cash.

this. But if you do off road and can swing I recommend the Bilstein 6112 over the fox 2.0. I just did that and it’s great. Matched with the 5160 rears



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Default lift vs mid or long travel?

Originally Posted by berty
Eh you'll find advocates for both sides. But I think most agree a mid/long travel suspension kit is the far superior choice over a lift or level.

Lift kits and levels aren't so different from each other. Both use spacers or longer struts/coilovers to push the stock control arms down further. The difference is that a lift kit will relocate the differential and mounting points for the control arms leaving you with the same geometry as factory. A level will not do that and for that reason is only capable of giving you a certain amount of lift (try to stick within 2.5"). A level kit is much easier and cheaper to install (you can probably do it yourself with some garage tools and a jack), a lift kit requires cutting and much much more labor to install (leave that install for the professionals).

There is soo much that can go into this decision, how much offroading are you planning on doing? What kind of offroading are you planning on doing? What's your budget?
Seems to me the real question should be "Lift or mid / long travel?" Overall, the mid or [better] long travel setups are superior? If the truck is 4wd, still need to drop the front differential to maintain correct steering geometry and CV angles etc.? Very important to plan ahead knowing all that goes into doing a system correctly. Those "gotchas" can get expensive quickly.
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Intrigued with doing an independent front suspension. I did a full Carli 3" setup on my dodge 2006 cummins and always pretty much thought the solid front axle trucks were superior but looking into it a lot deeper, I realize that properly executed independent front end systems can actually be better IF they can be made to be bullet-proof and actually may even provide more travel. The caveat: those CV joints. Always leery of those things breaking. In fact, it looks like having 4wd may even be an impediment to building a proper long-travel setup by virtue of having to deal with the front differential and CV joints / driveshafts. Thoughts and feedback on this? This item is the one big deal that keeps bugging me; and will be the deciding factor between staying with the F150 or going back up to a 1-ton truck with solid front axle.
Contrary item: the solid front axle is a huge amount of un-sprung weight, and I would really like to try a tricked-out long-travel setup if that can work OK with 4wd. I would almost be willing to forego the 4wd but not so sure about that because it is very useful at times.

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