HELP with 2012 Sony Nav System To LCQ1
05-07-2012, 02:05 PM
#11
Which inputs are you summing? It sounds like you may not have the right channels going into the LCQ-1. The tweeters in the A-pillar are crossed over from the amp - run the tweeters into the "Main" input and then run the door speakers into the "Ch2" input and sum those. Then run your RCA's from "Front/Main Output" to your 4-channel amp. For the rear doors, just use a line level converter to run the door speaker connections to your 4-channel amp. Finally, run your subwoofer out from the Sony amp to your "Sub/Ch3" input on the LCQ-1, and out to your sub amp.
Try that and let me know how it sounds.
Try that and let me know how it sounds.
05-07-2012, 03:22 PM
#12
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Which inputs are you summing? It sounds like you may not have the right channels going into the LCQ-1. The tweeters in the A-pillar are crossed over from the amp - run the tweeters into the "Main" input and then run the door speakers into the "Ch2" input and sum those. Then run your RCA's from "Front/Main Output" to your 4-channel amp. For the rear doors, just use a line level converter to run the door speaker connections to your 4-channel amp. Finally, run your subwoofer out from the Sony amp to your "Sub/Ch3" input on the LCQ-1, and out to your sub amp.
Try that and let me know how it sounds.
Try that and let me know how it sounds.
THanks again! lol....
Last edited by WGFA; 05-07-2012 at 03:24 PM. Reason: more info
05-07-2012, 03:38 PM
#13
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Which inputs are you summing? It sounds like you may not have the right channels going into the LCQ-1. The tweeters in the A-pillar are crossed over from the amp - run the tweeters into the "Main" input and then run the door speakers into the "Ch2" input and sum those. Then run your RCA's from "Front/Main Output" to your 4-channel amp. For the rear doors, just use a line level converter to run the door speaker connections to your 4-channel amp. Finally, run your subwoofer out from the Sony amp to your "Sub/Ch3" input on the LCQ-1, and out to your sub amp.
Try that and let me know how it sounds.
Try that and let me know how it sounds.
. I just ran the front door speakers "woofers" to "Front/Main" and did not run any tweet wires to the LCQ1. Also I just ran my sub wires to the lcq1. So I had nothing going to Rear/Ch2. I thought that was for rear door speakers. Maybe thats it.. IDK I hate this Sh*t! lol...
05-07-2012, 07:54 PM
#14
Okay I skimmed through all this so if I touch on something already mentioned I apologize.
Run your front tweeter wires into input one. Run your front woofer wires into input two. Run your four sub wires into input three. Then sum input one and two only. This has to be done by taking the cover off of the lcq1 and moving the jumper. Then the LED light will indicate "connected to main".
Now, level settings are important. The lcq1 gets extremely noisy if the levels get too high. The manual says turn the HU to 75% and then up the levels until "maximized" lights up. Sorry but that's bullsh*t. You will get your levels WAY too high by doing this. Never run your HU more than 75%, and leave your lcq1 levels at 50% or less. Make up the difference with your amps.
All that being said, from zero to 50% on the HU volume my system sounds gorgeous, seriously. Between 50% and 75% volume is gets louder but loses a little clarity. I think it is more of an lcq1 limitation when it comes to signal summing. But of course, any louder than halfway and it is getting obnoxious anyway.
Try that and let us know. Don't get frustrated, we'll get it there. If it comes down to it I can PM you my cell and I'll try to help. I know going back and forth to the forum can get tiring. Only thing is if we get it fixed post your results because that's what we're all here for.
Peace.
Run your front tweeter wires into input one. Run your front woofer wires into input two. Run your four sub wires into input three. Then sum input one and two only. This has to be done by taking the cover off of the lcq1 and moving the jumper. Then the LED light will indicate "connected to main".
Now, level settings are important. The lcq1 gets extremely noisy if the levels get too high. The manual says turn the HU to 75% and then up the levels until "maximized" lights up. Sorry but that's bullsh*t. You will get your levels WAY too high by doing this. Never run your HU more than 75%, and leave your lcq1 levels at 50% or less. Make up the difference with your amps.
All that being said, from zero to 50% on the HU volume my system sounds gorgeous, seriously. Between 50% and 75% volume is gets louder but loses a little clarity. I think it is more of an lcq1 limitation when it comes to signal summing. But of course, any louder than halfway and it is getting obnoxious anyway.
Try that and let us know. Don't get frustrated, we'll get it there. If it comes down to it I can PM you my cell and I'll try to help. I know going back and forth to the forum can get tiring. Only thing is if we get it fixed post your results because that's what we're all here for.
Peace.
05-07-2012, 08:07 PM
#15
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Okay I skimmed through all this so if I touch on something already mentioned I apologize.
Run your front tweeter wires into input one. Run your front woofer wires into input two. Run your four sub wires into input three. Then sum input one and two only. This has to be done by taking the cover off of the lcq1 and moving the jumper. Then the LED light will indicate "connected to main".
Now, level settings are important. The lcq1 gets extremely noisy if the levels get too high. The manual says turn the HU to 75% and then up the levels until "maximized" lights up. Sorry but that's bullsh*t. You will get your levels WAY too high by doing this. Never run your HU more than 75%, and leave your lcq1 levels at 50% or less. Make up the difference with your amps.
All that being said, from zero to 50% on the HU volume my system sounds gorgeous, seriously. Between 50% and 75% volume is gets louder but loses a little clarity. I think it is more of an lcq1 limitation when it comes to signal summing. But of course, any louder than halfway and it is getting obnoxious anyway.
Try that and let us know. Don't get frustrated, we'll get it there. If it comes down to it I can PM you my cell and I'll try to help. I know going back and forth to the forum can get tiring. Only thing is if we get it fixed post your results because that's what we're all here for.
Peace.
Run your front tweeter wires into input one. Run your front woofer wires into input two. Run your four sub wires into input three. Then sum input one and two only. This has to be done by taking the cover off of the lcq1 and moving the jumper. Then the LED light will indicate "connected to main".
Now, level settings are important. The lcq1 gets extremely noisy if the levels get too high. The manual says turn the HU to 75% and then up the levels until "maximized" lights up. Sorry but that's bullsh*t. You will get your levels WAY too high by doing this. Never run your HU more than 75%, and leave your lcq1 levels at 50% or less. Make up the difference with your amps.
All that being said, from zero to 50% on the HU volume my system sounds gorgeous, seriously. Between 50% and 75% volume is gets louder but loses a little clarity. I think it is more of an lcq1 limitation when it comes to signal summing. But of course, any louder than halfway and it is getting obnoxious anyway.
Try that and let us know. Don't get frustrated, we'll get it there. If it comes down to it I can PM you my cell and I'll try to help. I know going back and forth to the forum can get tiring. Only thing is if we get it fixed post your results because that's what we're all here for.
Peace.
05-08-2012, 09:56 AM
#16
Yeah - Eta clarified what I was saying before. If you don't have the tweeters going into "main", the LCQ-1 isn't summing anything. The front door speakers are crossed over by the Sony amp. They aren't getting a full signal. You need the signal from the tweeters AND the door speakers to sum in order to get a full signal! It looks like you're on the right track now - make sure you follow Eta's advice on the levels for the LCQ-1, or use my screenshot to set them. Post back your results and let us know how it sounds.
05-08-2012, 01:13 PM
#17
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Thread Starter
Update!
Ok, went out and ran the four wires for the tweets and installed all connections to their correct place into the LCQ1. The Mains and Rears are Sumed. Sub is not Sumed. MUCH better! But with that said it still not the same as an aftemarket HU but I can live with it tho. I need to "DynaMatt" the doors. Still sounds like I'm in a tunnel or even a "bullhorn" sound to a point. Possibly my Sub could be shot?? Not sure. It doesn't sound as tight as it should be. Still a little sloppy. Also some songs sound better than others as where my Avic Z-2 punched out every song the same, awesome. Not saying that the Z-2 is the best HU ever but it's the only one I've had in years to compare it to with amps and subs installed. Anyway just trying to be honest with my evaluation of this stuff. I'm pretty sure it's just not one thing that lacks it's everything.. lol.. Just too many hoops to jump thru to get a tru sound...
I just like to thank Apone and Etazeta for all the help and continued support as we go from here.
I just like to thank Apone and Etazeta for all the help and continued support as we go from here.
Last edited by WGFA; 05-08-2012 at 01:17 PM.
05-08-2012, 01:19 PM
#18
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05-08-2012, 03:28 PM
#19
Glad to help, WFGA!
Sounds like you are into the "fine tuning" stage now. Start looking to tweak on your amp - if you have a subsonic filter, that will be a huge help. What kind of sub are you running? The general settings for my LCQ-1 work great for me, but you've got different equipment. I suspect your settings will wind up to be quite a bit different from mine. Also - I did sum in my sub channel. If you do sum it - you're gonna have to really tune your system well to make sure that you don't overdrive your sub and/or your door speakers. It might give you the sound you're looking for, though. Make sure you are running a DVC sub as well.
Glad you went and got this working - I was going to pressure you into doing it sooner, because I couldn't wait until the weekend to find out how it was going!
Sounds like you are into the "fine tuning" stage now. Start looking to tweak on your amp - if you have a subsonic filter, that will be a huge help. What kind of sub are you running? The general settings for my LCQ-1 work great for me, but you've got different equipment. I suspect your settings will wind up to be quite a bit different from mine. Also - I did sum in my sub channel. If you do sum it - you're gonna have to really tune your system well to make sure that you don't overdrive your sub and/or your door speakers. It might give you the sound you're looking for, though. Make sure you are running a DVC sub as well.
Glad you went and got this working - I was going to pressure you into doing it sooner, because I couldn't wait until the weekend to find out how it was going!
Last edited by Apone; 05-08-2012 at 03:33 PM.
05-08-2012, 04:46 PM
#20
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Thread Starter
Glad to help, WFGA!
Sounds like you are into the "fine tuning" stage now. Start looking to tweak on your amp - if you have a subsonic filter, that will be a huge help. What kind of sub are you running? The general settings for my LCQ-1 work great for me, but you've got different equipment. I suspect your settings will wind up to be quite a bit different from mine. Also - I did sum in my sub channel. If you do sum it - you're gonna have to really tune your system well to make sure that you don't overdrive your sub and/or your door speakers. It might give you the sound you're looking for, though. Make sure you are running a DVC sub as well.
Glad you went and got this working - I was going to pressure you into doing it sooner, because I couldn't wait until the weekend to find out how it was going!
Sounds like you are into the "fine tuning" stage now. Start looking to tweak on your amp - if you have a subsonic filter, that will be a huge help. What kind of sub are you running? The general settings for my LCQ-1 work great for me, but you've got different equipment. I suspect your settings will wind up to be quite a bit different from mine. Also - I did sum in my sub channel. If you do sum it - you're gonna have to really tune your system well to make sure that you don't overdrive your sub and/or your door speakers. It might give you the sound you're looking for, though. Make sure you are running a DVC sub as well.
Glad you went and got this working - I was going to pressure you into doing it sooner, because I couldn't wait until the weekend to find out how it was going!