box question
#22
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Originally Posted by GrnMachine210
ahhh gotcha. I dont really have any experience with shallow mount subs but my gut instinct tells me that they wouldnt sound all that great in a ported box. I would say just build a good size sealed box. now i would definantly put those pioneers in a ported box.
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Originally Posted by GrnMachine210
Did you account for the displacement of the sub as well?
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Here are some WinIsd models using the Kicker recommend box sizes.
First is gain which shows the various roll offs across the fq bands.
Second is SPL which equates to loudness across the fg bands.
Third is group delay which somewhat indicates distortion.
I choose 38hz as the fq for ported. I would contact Kicker to find out where they recommend it to play.
So looking at the graphs I would say the ported small enclosure would be a good choice. There isnt that much difference with the larger box SPL wise and while it would be louder its not going to sound as good. I am not a expert at analyzing these outside of the obvious.
Blue = sealed, 1cuft
Pink - sealed, 4 cuft
Green = ported, 1.75 cuft
Yellow = ported, 2.25 cuft
First is gain which shows the various roll offs across the fq bands.
Second is SPL which equates to loudness across the fg bands.
Third is group delay which somewhat indicates distortion.
I choose 38hz as the fq for ported. I would contact Kicker to find out where they recommend it to play.
So looking at the graphs I would say the ported small enclosure would be a good choice. There isnt that much difference with the larger box SPL wise and while it would be louder its not going to sound as good. I am not a expert at analyzing these outside of the obvious.
Blue = sealed, 1cuft
Pink - sealed, 4 cuft
Green = ported, 1.75 cuft
Yellow = ported, 2.25 cuft
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amick218 (06-22-2012)
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Nice simulation joe! I was going to do something similar on maple/mat-lab but the responses were anything but idea, and the graphs on maple's output are only numerical.
Just remember their is no such thing as the "perfect box", nor a 100% sealed enclosure. The key is limiting the factors that create distortion.
Just remember their is no such thing as the "perfect box", nor a 100% sealed enclosure. The key is limiting the factors that create distortion.
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Thanks a lot Joe!
In a couple months when I'm caught up on cash and time maybe I could throw you some money to build this small ported?
In a couple months when I'm caught up on cash and time maybe I could throw you some money to build this small ported?