UKNOWME

Toyota contracts with JBL

king nothing

Right, but they dont use actual JBL components. Sure, they put the name on it, they might have even had JBL design them the cheapest speaker possible, but they dont put a real set of JBL components in the vehicle. same with the infinity stuff in my old dodge, the sony in the new trucks. They basically take a speaker thats one step above the stock crap that costs them 1.25 each and pay to slap a name on it. Im talking about putting a nice set of speakers in these things.

UKNOWME

Ahh I see what you mean.

CreepinDeth

Because there's more profit in charging people $2,000 to $3,000 for a "Premium" stereo system with navigation with crap components. Manufacturers found a new way to extort consumers in the 90's IIRC with GPS navigation systems. $2,000 a pop.....and then for at least a decade it kept them going on a big profit margins for the audio divisions. Then more and more people were buying $100-$200 Garmins instead.

So now manufacturers are incorporating more of the dash controls INTO the stereo units from the factory. Not a good thing, because that means if that head unit takes a crap....you're not only losing your stereo, but a bunch of controls for other accessories. I know Lexus started doing this with their cars at least 8 years ago , but their audio component quality is obviously MUCH higher.

The problem is dealers have their ordered stock on the lots fully loaded for what reason ?? Because it's the most profit potential more then anything. Why else is a GM Chevy Tahoe 4x4 now starting at $50K and running $65K loaded ?? $15,000 in accessories is absurd......but dealers stock themselves for the customers who will just finance it.

Shane361

Don't be a noob and upgrade your door speakers. The problem with speakers are that they are UNDERPOWERED. So in getting better speakers you are only making things worse. Unless....you get that amp. Spend the cash, grab two amps, Fox box for a 10 or 2 and replace your mids. It will be worth it in the long run.

Zrock

ahhh the good old days of loud music and great sound systems in my cars/trucks. Guess 15 years of that has taken its tole in hearing loss

sullyman

What? I couldn't hear you over the ringing in my ears from twenty five years of loud music!

Wyo11Scab

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I totally disagree. Upgrading your door speakers should be the first thing you do. Then add an amp if you desire. Overpowering crap speakers you still have crap speakers only louder.

Shane361

You would be wrong then. Putting an amp to stock speakers will sound 10 times better than upgrading stock speakers. Sorry but it's the truth.

Squadfer

putting an amp to stock speakers will work...in theory.. I've done this many times for customers when I was an installer as they insisted they pursue this path (customer is always right). Even put the oscilloscope on them to make sure they were getting a clean unclipped signal at max volume. 2-3 weeks later they came back with speakers that had torn the surrounds off, they were not blown but they no longer functioned the way a speaker was intended to function. The cone was no longer stabilized in its movement which produced a very distorted sound. Stock speakers are not designed to be powered by much more than what is coming from the stock radio. So yea it could be the truth but in reality it is not the proper fix.