If you've never heard of Collinite 845 Wax, you owe it to yourself to try it!
03-18-2012, 11:08 AM
#31
What Zaino product are you using? Could be comparing apples to oranges here. I've never been too impressed with Zaino sealants, they tend to dull metal flake and pearls.
I've used everything from off the shelf waxes to high end stuff costing $100+ for 6 ounces. Each person,vehicle, color is going to respond to a wax, sealant, cleaner, etc... differently. I say find what works best for you and your vehicle and enjoy detailing.
Me personally, I use 845 for a sealant and Pinnacle carnuba liquid. Both applied with a Flex buffer. I could give a huge list when I do a full exterior detail on my personal truck but im on my phone.
I've used everything from off the shelf waxes to high end stuff costing $100+ for 6 ounces. Each person,vehicle, color is going to respond to a wax, sealant, cleaner, etc... differently. I say find what works best for you and your vehicle and enjoy detailing.
Me personally, I use 845 for a sealant and Pinnacle carnuba liquid. Both applied with a Flex buffer. I could give a huge list when I do a full exterior detail on my personal truck but im on my phone.
The biggest choice in Zaino is choosing between their Z5 or Z2. They claim the Z5 de-swirler. It may fill micro scratches (it's not abrasive), but mostly it really makes deep colors really pop. It's does nothing interesting for light colors like my white F150. Looks great on my black Mustang though.
Z2 adds a shine that is unlike anything I have ever seen. It's a must (vs Z5) on light colored cars. I think for darker colors it is also a must as a coat on top of Z5.
Once a year, I put one coat of Z5 and 2 coats of Z2 on my Mustang. That combo shines so well, it's unnatural. Like an HDR photoshop image. The car is black alright, but somehow the surface looks chromed somehow. Pictures don't do it justice. You just have to see it.
I've not used 845. I won't try anything else because my finish looks better than anything I've seen on another car and I don't want to fix what's not broken. Maybe I've not seen a car finished wit 845, I don't know. I just have no reason to switch from Zaino.
Here is my routine, all with Zaino product except the Dawn.
Once per year... Wash with Dawn to strip everything. Claybar the surface. One coat Z5 (skip thus on light color cars). Rub off, then z6 spray to ensure any residue is gone. Then 2 coats Z2 with Z6 spray between coats to ensure residue is gone - also makes the Z2 go on thinner (you would not believe how little is needed). Then one coat Z-CS, which is a whipe-on-and-forget (no buff off) protectant that makes the finish last a really long time.
After that, it's just normal washes (with Zaino's wash, definitely not Dawn), dry and spray with Z6. Another time or two during the year if I have spare time (never) I might put on a coat of Z2 just for the heck of it.
They have a Grand Finale spray that I might use before a car show or cruise-in. It is really expensive, but makes the finish look like you just did that once/year process.
I'm not going to claim Zaino is the best bang/buck. it's not cheap. I just love the results better that anything else I've seen amongst the locals here.
One technical note. Z5 and Z2 need hours or half days between coats. Unless you mix them as directed with Zaino Z-FX that does something chemically to the cure time. With that, I wait only for the coat to dry (30-120 minutes depending on humidity). It still makes for a the once/year process to eat a whole day, but I don't mind just nice/year since it's low maintenance all year long.
03-18-2012, 11:13 AM
#32
What Zaino product are you using? Could be comparing apples to oranges here. I've never been too impressed with Zaino sealants, they tend to dull metal flake and pearls.
I've used everything from off the shelf waxes to high end stuff costing $100+ for 6 ounces. Each person,vehicle, color is going to respond to a wax, sealant, cleaner, etc... differently. I say find what works best for you and your vehicle and enjoy detailing.
Me personally, I use 845 for a sealant and Pinnacle carnuba liquid. Both applied with a Flex buffer. I could give a huge list when I do a full exterior detail on my personal truck but im on my phone.
I've used everything from off the shelf waxes to high end stuff costing $100+ for 6 ounces. Each person,vehicle, color is going to respond to a wax, sealant, cleaner, etc... differently. I say find what works best for you and your vehicle and enjoy detailing.
Me personally, I use 845 for a sealant and Pinnacle carnuba liquid. Both applied with a Flex buffer. I could give a huge list when I do a full exterior detail on my personal truck but im on my phone.
03-18-2012, 11:23 AM
#33
Retired and loving it!
Thread Starter
It is interesting that Collinite has a warning on their cleaners that it is not reccomended for Darker Clear Coat finishes (see below from website).. It is on both the 840 & 126 products. Anyone have issues using it on dark colors?
No. 840
Pre-wax Cleaner
First step auto cleaner removes embedded contaminants to prep for follow-up protective wax.
Restores color and clarity to finishes effected by weathering
Prepares surface for follow-up wax shine and protection
Improves wax bond and staying power
Not recommended for dark clear coat finishes
No. 840
Pre-wax Cleaner
First step auto cleaner removes embedded contaminants to prep for follow-up protective wax.
Restores color and clarity to finishes effected by weathering
Prepares surface for follow-up wax shine and protection
Improves wax bond and staying power
Not recommended for dark clear coat finishes
03-18-2012, 11:25 AM
#34
got mule?
I like 845, but I only use it for wheels. It seems to resist heat fairly well. It's also great for fiberglass shower stalls.
I've found other waxes as easy to use, that last as long, don't smell as bad and aren't flammable. It's all in what gives you the best results, for me the old outlawed Meg's blue tins give me the best results.
I believe I got mine a few years back at na na na na na Napa know how know how. Now you're singing it too.
I've found other waxes as easy to use, that last as long, don't smell as bad and aren't flammable. It's all in what gives you the best results, for me the old outlawed Meg's blue tins give me the best results.
I believe I got mine a few years back at na na na na na Napa know how know how. Now you're singing it too.
03-18-2012, 12:53 PM
#35
Retired and loving it!
Thread Starter
I like 845, but I only use it for wheels. It seems to resist heat fairly well. It's also great for fiberglass shower stalls.
I've found other waxes as easy to use, that last as long, don't smell as bad and aren't flammable. It's all in what gives you the best results, for me the old outlawed Meg's blue tins give me the best results.
I believe I got mine a few years back at na na na na na Napa know how know how. Now you're singing it too.
I've found other waxes as easy to use, that last as long, don't smell as bad and aren't flammable. It's all in what gives you the best results, for me the old outlawed Meg's blue tins give me the best results.
I believe I got mine a few years back at na na na na na Napa know how know how. Now you're singing it too.
I am looking forward to seeing how well the 845 does on my chrome wheels. It sure shined them and the chrome grill well.
03-23-2012, 09:32 PM
#39
I apologize, I haven't kept up with the thread.
As far as my protection details, I do them every two to three months because I'm extremely particular about my vehicles, I live on a dirt road that's mud 50% of the year and the truck stays outside. Stupid 7" garage.
Anyway here it is.
Two bucket method wash with dawn, then claybar with a heavily saturated dawn solution. Foam cannon the truck with DP extreme foam. I've had pretty good luck with this soap but it's a preference, then air dry with the blower.
Depending on how harsh the weather and roads have been on my vehicle will determine if I need to do a polish to rid the truck of the scratches. Again depending on how bad, I've had good luck with the Megs 105/205 combo. If there is a lot of polishing I'll foam cannon the truck again to get rid of the dust.
Assuming I've skipped that step I'll apply with 845 with a black Cobra cross groove pad and apply it to the entire truck. I'll work it until it's almost clear on the truck and allow it to haze. Once it's hazed I'll wipe it off using a microfiber and use Pinaccle's detail spray/mist if needed. I'll allow it to cure overnight, 10-12 hours. I'll top the 845 with Pinnacle carnuba liquid to add depth and allow the metallic to really pop. Final wipe down is with Pinnacle's detail spray/mist.
This is just the basic protection detail I give the truck's paint, and is done in a garage I'm lucky enough to have access to.
When using the truck for advertisement for my side detail business, (car shows, events, etc...) I'll skip the 845 and just bury the truck in 2 coats of the Pinnacle carnuba liquid.
I used to swear by Natty's blue until I realized the side affect of the bubble gum smell. Bugs LOVE it.
Now, there are several other products out there that are better sealants than 845. I like the Klasse synthetic sealant but it doesn't give that depth I'm after. Just like anything else, detailing will have 50% of people love a product and 50% will hate it. It's all preference. Zaino has always been good to me, I just got away from it trying new products.
03-26-2012, 01:07 AM
#40
Senior Member
Well after reading this post I just had to try 845. I ordered it off ebay last Sunday for 15.95 with free shipping. Recieved it on Wednesday, and spent 6 hours on Thursday detailing my truck. I first washed the truck with dawn, then with claybar, and one more time with clear water. When I started to apply the 845 I could see the paint pop. This stuff is great! It's not hard to apply, and the final results are fantastic. My truck is candy red so I dont know if the qualifies as a dark clear coat, but it work on it. Collinite 845 is my new wax of choise.