Work trucks: V8 or go with the 2.7L EB?
02-11-2017, 12:43 PM
#21
Forced induction it increases the pressure, temperature and density of the air in the engine.
Naturally aspirated engines use atmospheric pressure to get air into the engine.
If you lack maintenance on a forced induction engine you are more likely to have a failure vs a naturally aspirated engine because you are at a higher temp and pressure in the engine. The forced induction engine could also have more damage done to it from a lack of maintenance.
You also have to relies how important maintenance is on both engines if they are both well maintained they both are fine and one shouldn’t cause more of a issue then another.
Naturally aspirated engines use atmospheric pressure to get air into the engine.
If you lack maintenance on a forced induction engine you are more likely to have a failure vs a naturally aspirated engine because you are at a higher temp and pressure in the engine. The forced induction engine could also have more damage done to it from a lack of maintenance.
You also have to relies how important maintenance is on both engines if they are both well maintained they both are fine and one shouldn’t cause more of a issue then another.
02-11-2017, 02:40 PM
#22
I have a 5.0 and love it! Having said that, OP, if I was in your shoes I would get the 2.7 (or 3.5 V6). Most of my buddies who have company work trucks all have the 2.7. It has plenty of power, there is no data anywhere saying it is less reliable, is cheaper (more rebates) and gets better gas mileage.
Most real world MPG is relatively similar between the 5.0 and 2.7 (you can absolutely get better with the 2.7 if you drive it with fuel efficiency in mind, but I am guessing your employees get a gas card so lets assume they dont). However, something no one has mentioned yet is the idling time. My buddies who have work trucks constantly have their trucks idling on site. The 5.0 will eat up a lot more gas than the 2.7 idling. So, real world mileage for this condition I would probably expect the 2.7 to be 2-3 mpg better than the V8. For a company who pays for gas, this adds up.
Anyways, just my 2 cents.
Most real world MPG is relatively similar between the 5.0 and 2.7 (you can absolutely get better with the 2.7 if you drive it with fuel efficiency in mind, but I am guessing your employees get a gas card so lets assume they dont). However, something no one has mentioned yet is the idling time. My buddies who have work trucks constantly have their trucks idling on site. The 5.0 will eat up a lot more gas than the 2.7 idling. So, real world mileage for this condition I would probably expect the 2.7 to be 2-3 mpg better than the V8. For a company who pays for gas, this adds up.
Anyways, just my 2 cents.
02-11-2017, 03:05 PM
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Forced induction it increases the pressure, temperature and density of the air in the engine.
Naturally aspirated engines use atmospheric pressure to get air into the engine.
If you lack maintenance on a forced induction engine you are more likely to have a failure vs a naturally aspirated engine because you are at a higher temp and pressure in the engine. The forced induction engine could also have more damage done to it from a lack of maintenance.
You also have to relies how important maintenance is on both engines if they are both well maintained they both are fine and one shouldn’t cause more of a issue then another.
Naturally aspirated engines use atmospheric pressure to get air into the engine.
If you lack maintenance on a forced induction engine you are more likely to have a failure vs a naturally aspirated engine because you are at a higher temp and pressure in the engine. The forced induction engine could also have more damage done to it from a lack of maintenance.
You also have to relies how important maintenance is on both engines if they are both well maintained they both are fine and one shouldn’t cause more of a issue then another.
02-11-2017, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by XrayDragon74
The 2.7 is if not more dependable then the 5.0 coyote.The EB has more power than the Coyote.So your stone cold reliability doesn't hold water in this situation. The 2.7 EB has stone cold reliability
Hah!
Tsigwing.......well?
He's not posting facts (whitch is impossible to do because we all know that guy is wrong with everything quoted in his post)
So,the man who's all about looking for backed up facts,waiting for you to call him out on it...
Nevermind,he was praising the little V6 EB,not sh*tting on it,so now misinformation/facts don't apply/don't mean anything.I understand.
Know this,the V6 EB engines have faults,understand that,the "little V6" is not the greatest engine in the world,hah.
Like,c'mon.
It's been well documented that the 5.0 V8 is a powerful,stout dependable engine (this statement goes beyond this forum into the Mustang community where thousands of guys are running the 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs to over 700HP with a otherwise stock engine reliably.Tho,also both V6 EB engines have also proven to be stout and dependable,all 3 engines are "with" religious care (tho the 2.7 V6 EB has had some issues early on,there been threads on it,but it's still early/ fairly new engine so well give that engine the benefit of the doubt).In short,ALL F150 engines have their positives and negatives.
3.5 V6,2.7 V6 EB,5.0 V8,3.5 V6 EB....4 engines,each a dream come true for 4 different kinds of people.
Me? 5.0 V8 all day.
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02-11-2017, 06:14 PM
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Hah!
Tsigwing.......well?
He's not posting facts (whitch is impossible to do because we all know that guy is wrong with everything quoted in his post)
So,the man who's all about looking for backed up facts,waiting for you to call him out on it...
Nevermind,he was praising the little V6 EB,not sh*tting on it,so now misinformation/facts don't apply/don't mean anything.I understand.
Know this,the V6 EB engines have faults,understand that,the "little V6" is not the greatest engine in the world,hah.
Like,c'mon.
It's been well documented that the 5.0 V8 is a powerful,stout dependable engine (this statement goes beyond this forum into the Mustang community where thousands of guys are running the 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs to over 700HP with a otherwise stock engine reliably.Tho,also both V6 EB engines have also proven to be stout and dependable,all 3 engines are "with" religious care (tho the 2.7 V6 EB has had some issues early on,there been threads on it,but it's still early/ fairly new engine so well give that engine the benefit of the doubt).In short,ALL F150 engines have their positives and negatives.
3.5 V6,2.7 V6 EB,5.0 V8,3.5 V6 EB....4 engines,each a dream come true for 4 different kinds of people.
Me? 5.0 V8 all day.
Tsigwing.......well?
He's not posting facts (whitch is impossible to do because we all know that guy is wrong with everything quoted in his post)
So,the man who's all about looking for backed up facts,waiting for you to call him out on it...
Nevermind,he was praising the little V6 EB,not sh*tting on it,so now misinformation/facts don't apply/don't mean anything.I understand.
Know this,the V6 EB engines have faults,understand that,the "little V6" is not the greatest engine in the world,hah.
Like,c'mon.
It's been well documented that the 5.0 V8 is a powerful,stout dependable engine (this statement goes beyond this forum into the Mustang community where thousands of guys are running the 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs to over 700HP with a otherwise stock engine reliably.Tho,also both V6 EB engines have also proven to be stout and dependable,all 3 engines are "with" religious care (tho the 2.7 V6 EB has had some issues early on,there been threads on it,but it's still early/ fairly new engine so well give that engine the benefit of the doubt).In short,ALL F150 engines have their positives and negatives.
3.5 V6,2.7 V6 EB,5.0 V8,3.5 V6 EB....4 engines,each a dream come true for 4 different kinds of people.
Me? 5.0 V8 all day.
02-11-2017, 06:15 PM
#26
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Hah!
Tsigwing.......well?
He's not posting facts (whitch is impossible to do because we all know that guy is wrong with everything quoted in his post)
So,the man who's all about looking for backed up facts,waiting for you to call him out on it...
Nevermind,he was praising the little V6 EB,not sh*tting on it,so now misinformation/facts don't apply/don't mean anything.I understand.
Know this,the V6 EB engines have faults,understand that,the "little V6" is not the greatest engine in the world,hah.
Like,c'mon.
It's been well documented that the 5.0 V8 is a powerful,stout dependable engine (this statement goes beyond this forum into the Mustang community where thousands of guys are running the 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs to over 700HP with a otherwise stock engine reliably.Tho,also both V6 EB engines have also proven to be stout and dependable,all 3 engines are "with" religious care (tho the 2.7 V6 EB has had some issues early on,there been threads on it,but it's still early/ fairly new engine so well give that engine the benefit of the doubt).In short,ALL F150 engines have their positives and negatives.
3.5 V6,2.7 V6 EB,5.0 V8,3.5 V6 EB....4 engines,each a dream come true for 4 different kinds of people.
Me? 5.0 V8 all day.
Tsigwing.......well?
He's not posting facts (whitch is impossible to do because we all know that guy is wrong with everything quoted in his post)
So,the man who's all about looking for backed up facts,waiting for you to call him out on it...
Nevermind,he was praising the little V6 EB,not sh*tting on it,so now misinformation/facts don't apply/don't mean anything.I understand.
Know this,the V6 EB engines have faults,understand that,the "little V6" is not the greatest engine in the world,hah.
Like,c'mon.
It's been well documented that the 5.0 V8 is a powerful,stout dependable engine (this statement goes beyond this forum into the Mustang community where thousands of guys are running the 5.0 V8 Mustang GTs to over 700HP with a otherwise stock engine reliably.Tho,also both V6 EB engines have also proven to be stout and dependable,all 3 engines are "with" religious care (tho the 2.7 V6 EB has had some issues early on,there been threads on it,but it's still early/ fairly new engine so well give that engine the benefit of the doubt).In short,ALL F150 engines have their positives and negatives.
3.5 V6,2.7 V6 EB,5.0 V8,3.5 V6 EB....4 engines,each a dream come true for 4 different kinds of people.
Me? 5.0 V8 all day.
02-11-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tsigwing
Makes you wonder why Ford rates the 3.5L as the most capable motor to tow with don't it?
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02-11-2017, 09:01 PM
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After sitting here reading your two responses here is my advice:
The 2.7 will be plenty powerful enough for what you are using it for.
Its 800.00 cheaper than the 5.0
It will save you anywhere from 3200.00-6400.00 in fuel cost using 2.00-4.00 gal
I based this on 120K miles over 6 years of ownership.
But your local techs seem like they are not convinced of this.
IMHO go with the 2.7 in the end the money saved in operating cost and purchase will more than cover the additional cost of maintaining the 2.7 Ecoboost. And if you still question reliability get the extended powertrain warranty.
All this coming from a 5.0 guy
The 2.7 will be plenty powerful enough for what you are using it for.
Its 800.00 cheaper than the 5.0
It will save you anywhere from 3200.00-6400.00 in fuel cost using 2.00-4.00 gal
I based this on 120K miles over 6 years of ownership.
But your local techs seem like they are not convinced of this.
IMHO go with the 2.7 in the end the money saved in operating cost and purchase will more than cover the additional cost of maintaining the 2.7 Ecoboost. And if you still question reliability get the extended powertrain warranty.
All this coming from a 5.0 guy
02-11-2017, 09:31 PM
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With forced induction the V6 has been the top engine in the F150 for the last few years...and some of the V6 haters are all butt hurt about it.
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