Work trucks: V8 or go with the 2.7L EB?
02-05-2017, 01:48 PM
#11
Also if Ford lists the Max payload at 2210 lbs it will likely be less than that. If you're at a dealership check door jambs for comparable trucks but I think a lot of guys on the forum with the payload package on the 2.7 are around 1600-1900 lbs depending on trim and options added in.
Just something to consider as I thought my 500A Lariat would have 2000+ lbs payload but is actually 1680 lbs.
Just something to consider as I thought my 500A Lariat would have 2000+ lbs payload but is actually 1680 lbs.
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maximusrex (02-06-2017)
02-05-2017, 02:20 PM
#12
Also if Ford lists the Max payload at 2210 lbs it will likely be less than that. If you're at a dealership check door jambs for comparable trucks but I think a lot of guys on the forum with the payload package on the 2.7 are around 1600-1900 lbs depending on trim and options added in.
Just something to consider as I thought my 500A Lariat would have 2000+ lbs payload but is actually 1680 lbs.
Just something to consider as I thought my 500A Lariat would have 2000+ lbs payload but is actually 1680 lbs.
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maximusrex (02-06-2017)
02-05-2017, 11:00 PM
#13
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As a business owner, I'd be more concerned about something nobody is mentioning: maintenance and reliability. The Coyote is still in generation 1 because it's stone cold reliable and it works. The EcoBoost is in generation 2 because of the multiple issues they've had. Nobody has a ton of miles on a gen 2 Eco yet.
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maximusrex (02-06-2017)
02-05-2017, 11:14 PM
#14
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Thanks for all the advice! I was trying to find the payload package option, but it seems that maybe it's only available with a certain cab or bed length, is that correct?
We buy the extended cab, not the regular or crew cab (the techs keep their tools and small parts back there so we don't ever use the back seat for passengers) and we get the 6.5ft bed, which is just the right length for what they need to carry. I probably should have stated that at the outset.
When I tried to build on ford.com, it would only allow the bigger payload with the regular cab and 8ft bed.
Honestly though, I don't think we ever carry even close to the 2210 lbs that the extended cab, 6.5ft bed, 2.7L V6 EB. As I said before, towing isn't even a real consideration - it happens occasionally, but never anything that would require an increase in towing capacity.
Tech satisfaction is definitely a consideration, but from everything I am seeing, there's no reason we need the V8.
We don't care abut resale. This particular tech is getting his 2010 XLT (~100k miles) replaced. The 2010 will be passed on to an apprentice tech. In a couple of years, if that guy has proved himself, we'll buy him a new truck (these vehicles are both work and personal vehicles for our techs) and either sell the 2010 locally or it will become the shop truck. We're a small, family business in the southeast so we're not really doing the big "fleet" thing.
Again, appreciate all the advice - I'm learning a lot. It's kinda nice to be the girl who knows more about engines and payloads than the techs :P
We buy the extended cab, not the regular or crew cab (the techs keep their tools and small parts back there so we don't ever use the back seat for passengers) and we get the 6.5ft bed, which is just the right length for what they need to carry. I probably should have stated that at the outset.
When I tried to build on ford.com, it would only allow the bigger payload with the regular cab and 8ft bed.
Honestly though, I don't think we ever carry even close to the 2210 lbs that the extended cab, 6.5ft bed, 2.7L V6 EB. As I said before, towing isn't even a real consideration - it happens occasionally, but never anything that would require an increase in towing capacity.
Tech satisfaction is definitely a consideration, but from everything I am seeing, there's no reason we need the V8.
We don't care abut resale. This particular tech is getting his 2010 XLT (~100k miles) replaced. The 2010 will be passed on to an apprentice tech. In a couple of years, if that guy has proved himself, we'll buy him a new truck (these vehicles are both work and personal vehicles for our techs) and either sell the 2010 locally or it will become the shop truck. We're a small, family business in the southeast so we're not really doing the big "fleet" thing.
Again, appreciate all the advice - I'm learning a lot. It's kinda nice to be the girl who knows more about engines and payloads than the techs :P
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maximusrex (02-06-2017)
02-06-2017, 10:49 AM
#15
I'll echo the comment about the base 3.5 V6. It probably will more than suit your needs and be the most reliable.
But the 2.7 isn't much more expensive and is a heck of an engine. I ended up buying a 2014 truck, but if I had gotten a 2015 or newer I had decided that I only wanted the 2.7EB.
But the 2.7 isn't much more expensive and is a heck of an engine. I ended up buying a 2014 truck, but if I had gotten a 2015 or newer I had decided that I only wanted the 2.7EB.
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maximusrex (02-06-2017)
02-06-2017, 06:17 PM
#16
On the payload. I have a 2015 XLT Scab with the 302A and tow packages. The max payload from the sticker is 1541 lbs. I do tow a travel trailer with mine. After subtracting passenger weight, cargo and hitch head weight I have about a 1000 lbs of payload left.
I've had my truck a little over a year and would have no problems buying another 2.7L in the future. We got the Scab for the rare occasions we have someone driving with us. Most of the time the seats stay up and handle groceries or luggage. Just couldn't justify the additional cost for a Screw and just the two of us.
I've had my truck a little over a year and would have no problems buying another 2.7L in the future. We got the Scab for the rare occasions we have someone driving with us. Most of the time the seats stay up and handle groceries or luggage. Just couldn't justify the additional cost for a Screw and just the two of us.
02-07-2017, 09:40 AM
#17
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02-08-2017, 08:28 AM
#18
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The 5.0, all day long.
02-09-2017, 06:10 PM
#19
Thanks for all the advice! I was trying to find the payload package option, but it seems that maybe it's only available with a certain cab or bed length, is that correct?
We buy the extended cab, not the regular or crew cab (the techs keep their tools and small parts back there so we don't ever use the back seat for passengers) and we get the 6.5ft bed, which is just the right length for what they need to carry. I probably should have stated that at the outset.
When I tried to build on ford.com, it would only allow the bigger payload with the regular cab and 8ft bed.
Honestly though, I don't think we ever carry even close to the 2210 lbs that the extended cab, 6.5ft bed, 2.7L V6 EB. As I said before, towing isn't even a real consideration - it happens occasionally, but never anything that would require an increase in towing capacity.
Tech satisfaction is definitely a consideration, but from everything I am seeing, there's no reason we need the V8.
We don't care abut resale. This particular tech is getting his 2010 XLT (~100k miles) replaced. The 2010 will be passed on to an apprentice tech. In a couple of years, if that guy has proved himself, we'll buy him a new truck (these vehicles are both work and personal vehicles for our techs) and either sell the 2010 locally or it will become the shop truck. We're a small, family business in the southeast so we're not really doing the big "fleet" thing.
Again, appreciate all the advice - I'm learning a lot. It's kinda nice to be the girl who knows more about engines and payloads than the techs :P
We buy the extended cab, not the regular or crew cab (the techs keep their tools and small parts back there so we don't ever use the back seat for passengers) and we get the 6.5ft bed, which is just the right length for what they need to carry. I probably should have stated that at the outset.
When I tried to build on ford.com, it would only allow the bigger payload with the regular cab and 8ft bed.
Honestly though, I don't think we ever carry even close to the 2210 lbs that the extended cab, 6.5ft bed, 2.7L V6 EB. As I said before, towing isn't even a real consideration - it happens occasionally, but never anything that would require an increase in towing capacity.
Tech satisfaction is definitely a consideration, but from everything I am seeing, there's no reason we need the V8.
We don't care abut resale. This particular tech is getting his 2010 XLT (~100k miles) replaced. The 2010 will be passed on to an apprentice tech. In a couple of years, if that guy has proved himself, we'll buy him a new truck (these vehicles are both work and personal vehicles for our techs) and either sell the 2010 locally or it will become the shop truck. We're a small, family business in the southeast so we're not really doing the big "fleet" thing.
Again, appreciate all the advice - I'm learning a lot. It's kinda nice to be the girl who knows more about engines and payloads than the techs :P
I would think the ecoboost is a very capable engine for what you need, but it depends on how well you maintain them. If the are well maintained they shouldn't cause you any more issues then the v8. If you don't maintain them well the EB will cause you more issues.
If you maintain them like the marina I work at every truck has a check engine light on or some other problem and they don't fix them intell is a major problem, I would get the v8.
02-11-2017, 08:35 AM
#20
Senior Member
The question is how well do you maintain your rigs?
I would think the ecoboost is a very capable engine for what you need, but it depends on how well you maintain them. If the are well maintained they shouldn't cause you any more issues then the v8. If you don't maintain them well the EB will cause you more issues.
If you maintain them like the marina I work at every truck has a check engine light on or some other problem and they don't fix them intell is a major problem, I would get the v8.
I would think the ecoboost is a very capable engine for what you need, but it depends on how well you maintain them. If the are well maintained they shouldn't cause you any more issues then the v8. If you don't maintain them well the EB will cause you more issues.
If you maintain them like the marina I work at every truck has a check engine light on or some other problem and they don't fix them intell is a major problem, I would get the v8.
I love these statments. What FACTS do you base this on?