KDD555

The diesel trucks I drive at work smell and don't start in the winter.

Adam013085

Unless you need a diesel I rarely can see a case to justify having one as a DD. Yes, it gets better MPG, but gas is more expensive so it offsets the cost. If something goes wrong it costs quite a bit more than a gas engine to fix. Routing maintenance is 2-3 times the cost on a diesel as well. Some have a diesel to say I have a diesel but if you don't need one for work, towing, etc, I couldn't justify it myself.

PawPaw

My youngest daughter and her husband have this '12 F-250...son in law uses it every day to go to work and on the weekend's it pull's their 28' boat. In the fall it pull's a 30' travel trailer/hunting camp. I was amazed how quiet the engine is and the ride is not bad for having the FX4 package. He averages about the same as my Ecoboost 17-18mpg so that's not bad for a large pickup. Down in my area of South Louisiana diesel pickup's are real common and they've come a long way from the early 80's GM attempt. If you can justify the need to buy one by all mean's get one if you can afford it!

DaveInMn

I too have both. A '13 F150/Screw/Ecoboost (bought new a couple of months ago) and an '01 F250/SC/7.3 PSD (bought new 13 years ago). So far, I actually like the F250 better than the "new kid."

They both get about the same overall mileage (~19+) and, for me, the F250 is just as comfortable to ride in/drive. The AC is a lot better in the F250 too. The engine noise in the F250 is somewhat louder, but that's OK with me. Sounds like a real truck.

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MWDHAND

Being the new kid on the block here I do not want to ruffle feathers but here is my 2 cents. I have had diesels the last 10 years. Stock to stock a diesel will get about 15-17 mpg with no mods. Stock ecoboost is getting about 20. Gassers are much cheaper to repair and performance parts are about half the price. I modded my diesel (now sold) to get 21 mpg and that took a good chunk of money. (Boost Hp and you need a tranny lol), and the allison that tore up cost 6000 to repair. Along with all the other mods to get to 21 mpg I would say it is close to 10,000. As this thread has said. Diesels have there place and daily city is not a place for them and with the cost of diesel higher than gas in Canada now by a good margin a gaser is the way I jumped. I miss my diesel for pure performance but you have make trades in life!

Z7What

Different strokes for different folks.

Personally I love diesels but can't justify dropping 60K on one. The maintenance is more also, now with DEF it's even more. The 6.7L fuel filters are almost 100 bucks, then add something like 15qts or oil and a filter. Oil/Fuel Filter change will cost you damn near $250. If they break they also cost more for repairs.

If by the time I buy a new truck if Ford has a diesel in the F150 I will buy it! Maybe even then I may look into a F250, not sure.

Wayne

Wannafbody

Unless you are towing 11,000 pounds or more on a regular basis a diesel isn't the best choice.

MikeMcC

The diesel world has come a VERY long way since the mid-80s, but has suffered some issues along the way thanks to the EPA and mandatory emissions gear.

The late 90s-early 2000s diesels from all manufactures were pretty well rock solid; they don't make the power that the newer ones make, but they were reliable as tractors, and IMO are far better suited for pulling heavy loads than most gas motors.

That said, with the environmental restrictions placed on MFGs today, the big 3 (and the folks they contract with to make their motors) have had to get very creative in how they make both power, mileage, and align to the EPA pollution standards; this is what spawned DPFs, and now diesel exhaust fluid.

I purchased my 2014 F150 in late April, but almost pulled the trigger on a new Ram 2500 or F350. That said, after some exhaustive research it just didn't make sense. If you're looking for longevity out of a diesel, you can't use them as a grocery getter/city truck; they really need to pull heavy loads relatively often, and you have to be all over the maintenance, or you're liable to bankrupt yourself.

Secondly, a majority of the mfgs are still experiencing some fairly substantial problems; enough to make me think it's not worth the risk. For example, the powerstroke forums are littered with people who have blown turbos (2011 6.7) or fuel pumps (Bosch CP4) that grenade the whole high pressure fuel system (15k out of pocket repair if you fill up at the wrong station). The new Ford 6.7 is by no means 2003 6.0 in terms of reliability, but IMO they still need to work a few things out.

Basically, if you're not pulling 7-15k+ on a frequent basis, it's probably not worth the upfront cost, increased maintenance cost, nor burden of worrying about a very expensive repair. If you just want one, and can afford it, by all means pull the trigger on one.

They're no doubt sweet trucks, and IMO the kings of the road, but you've got to match them to the application much more so than you do a gas truck.

HardcoreOffroading

They do last longer..

sportster07

Modern diesels are a clusterfu(3 of high priced failures and maintenance. There is no point in owning one anymore as they are simply too expensive to own, buy and maintain compared to a gas motor. Your gasser may get 5mpg less but it is also twice as cheap to own and fix.

We own a towing and trucking company and all of our light duty trucks are being phased into gassers. The 7.3 and the Cummins 5.9 are the last two great diesels, all this new stuff is problems on top of problems be it the 6.6 duramax or the 6.0 ford.