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Trying to convince my dad to buy me an F-150

Old 06-28-2013, 10:58 PM
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Lol, I paid $900 for my 73 VW super beetle! I was very fortunate as that car is what I cut my teeth on working on cars because if it broke my butt was walking so I became handy as spinning the wrenches.
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Originally Posted by tareed94
I disagree on both accounts. I got my truck when I was almost 16. Both of the wrecks I have been in have been unavoidable because I was hit from behind. If you don't respect the power of the truck then yes you're goin to get hurt. But in the event of someone plowing into you you are way better off in a truck. Hot rodding in a truck is a bad idea because you can more easily roll it over. But for someone else hitting you you're safer.
You may disagree with both statements but statistically they are correct.

Ask yourself this, where you as good of a driver as you are today as when you where 16? Most people get better at driving over a couple years. (And by driving skill I mean actual car control, not just going on green and stopping on red).

If you live in a city (population 3+ mill) you will inevitably be put into a situation where someone will be about to crash into you and you will need to avoide them.

I have:
-had someone cut into my lane from a dead stop when I was doing 35
-had somone run a stop sign and almost t-bone me at 35mph
-had someone run a red light and almost t-bone me at 50mph
-numerous drivers slamming on the brakes to a dead stop in the middle of the road
-+ numerous others (20-30 incidents)

In all of these cases I was driving a sedan with quick steering, good handling and good brakes letting me avoided the collisions.
If I was driving my truck, its handling would have caused me to crash in over half the incidents.
Old 06-28-2013, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by User-One

You may disagree with both statements but statistically they are correct.

Ask yourself this, where you as good of a driver as you are today as when you where 16? Most people get better at driving over a couple years. (And by driving skill I mean actual car control, not just going on green and stopping on red).

If you live in a city (population 3+ mill) you will inevitably be put into a situation where someone will be about to crash into you and you will need to avoide them.

I have:
-had someone cut into my lane from a dead stop when I was doing 35
-had somone run a stop sign and almost t-bone me at 35mph
-had someone run a red light and almost t-bone me at 50mph
-numerous drivers slamming on the brakes to a dead stop in the middle of the road
-+ numerous others (20-30 incidents)

In all of these cases I was driving a sedan with quick steering, good handling and good brakes letting me avoided the collisions.
If I was driving my truck, its handling would have caused me to crash in over half the incidents.
Regardless my kids when I have them will have trucks. If I can avoid it I won't have a car. I'll take my chances in a truck. They're much more solid than a car. I've had plenty of near misses in my truck. Never had a brakin issue or sluggish steering issue. Mostly because (as I'm sure you know) in a truck you allow more room and watch people. Only reason I'm in a truck instead of a mustang is for the safety factor in the event of a collision. There's no comparison to a car crash and a truck crash. The truck victim is most of the time going to come out better.
Old 06-28-2013, 11:41 PM
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Just because y'all had to work for your first truck doesn't mean everyone should have to.
Incorrect. Everyone should have to work for one. No one should have them handed to them. It devalues hardwork and core values of appreciation for one's possessions.

Does every teen have time to work and get enough for a vehicle?
If not, and they want a vehicle, then they need to realign their priorities.

Well they surprised me with $10,000 after that which got me my truck.
And perhaps that's why you feel your first statement quoted above, is correct.

But all of this is wasted breath, because you are not going to see why this is not a good practice. I can ASSURE you that if you personally had to earn every dollar it took to buy your truck, you would have a greater appreciation for it. I'm not implying that you don't already appreciate it, because you are an active member on a forum dedicated to these trucks, indicates that you DO appreciate it. But you would have more appreciation if you were the sole contributor of the entire vehicle budget. No disrespect to you or others, but it's a fact of life. I can only guess that you may think this is the ramblings of an old man, who claims to have walked uphill to school, both ways, but it is not.

It's human nature to be more appreciative of successfully reaching difficult goals, and less appreciative of easily obtained goals. If a specific goal has little or no sweat equity, then it will have little or no appreciation.

At the end of the day.. I'm glad you're a Ford truck fan.
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Originally Posted by tareed94

Regardless my kids when I have them will have trucks. If I can avoid it I won't have a car. I'll take my chances in a truck. They're much more solid than a car. I've had plenty of near misses in my truck. Never had a brakin issue or sluggish steering issue. Mostly because (as I'm sure you know) in a truck you allow more room and watch people. Only reason I'm in a truck instead of a mustang is for the safety factor in the event of a collision. There's no comparison to a car crash and a truck crash. The truck victim is most of the time going to come out better.
This is not scientifically accurate, many smaller cars are safer than larger trucks.

1. COG is a lot higher and that causes rollovers in certain situations where a car would not flip.
2. Smaller cars use more sophisticated materials to build them and they absorb and distribute energy better.
3. Smaller cars keep occupants in place better than larger trucks/SUVs.
4. Sheer mass of truck/SUV make them more dangerous.

There are cars out there that have up to 21 air bags where trucks have 6 on a modern truck?
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Originally Posted by RES4CUE

This is not scientifically accurate, many smaller cars are safer than larger trucks.

1. COG is a lot higher and that causes rollovers in certain situations where a car would not flip.
2. Smaller cars use more sophisticated materials to build them and they absorb and distribute energy better.
3. Smaller cars keep occupants in place better than larger trucks/SUVs.
4. Sheer mass of truck/SUV make them more dangerous.

There are cars out there that have up to 21 air bags where trucks have 6 on a modern truck?
My current truck has no airbags...
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Originally Posted by Hunttman01

My current truck has no airbags...
Lol.. Doesn't sound safe

To the OP; yes, appreciate what your father decides to get. January of 2011, my dad bought me an F150 for my 16th. I didn't necessarily work, according to some people's standards, but I busted my *** in the classroom. Always have. He knew I was a hard worker, and could take care of a nice vehicle. Do I appreciate it? 100%. As far as giving you reasons why to get an F150, well, it's a Ford. Duh.
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Originally Posted by Benhicks24

Lol.. Doesn't sound safe

To the OP; yes, appreciate what your father decides to get. January of 2011, my dad bought me an F150 for my 16th. I didn't necessarily work, according to some people's standards, but I busted my *** in the classroom. Always have. He knew I was a hard worker, and could take care of a nice vehicle. Do I appreciate it? 100%. As far as giving you reasons why to get an F150, well, it's a Ford. Duh.
Same situation here except I was able to work for mine outside the classroom some. I don't know why I'm the one always catching crap form people on here. They all need to mind their own business if they don't like that people's parents think school is more important then they don't have to comment.

As far as safety I've pulled up right after a wreck of a car vs a truck. The front of the truck tore all the sheet metal off of one side of the car. I had to physically pull the door open so the driver could get the passenger out. The passenger wasn't in very good condition. He was bleeding from at least his head and arm and couldn't move well on his own. And per the two wreck pictures I posted. If I was in a car I probably would've been injured or hit the car infront of me. The larger mass is much better in the event of a rear end crash. A side crash yes you're more likely to roll over. And yes they've got less airbags but 21 is probably overkill. But there's a reason my parents forced me to get a truck. Small cars go right under trucks. You're not going to convince me that a small car is safer than my truck. Am I saying you're not going to be able to be hurt in a truck? Not at all. But I'm saying at least I feel 10x's safer in a truck especially after the wrecks I've been in.
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jarred1997
I have forgot to add that i have been working at his buisness for the past 4 summers know and have about 10 thousand saved up from working and birthday presents . My dad says he will pit a few thousand in for a truck for me. I told him that i would split the insurance 50/50 and im trying to convince him that the F-150 has low maintaince and is a durable truck.
Your dad chipping in to help is a totally different story,then your dad buying you a car
Good for you Jarred,
YOU work and save , hell its your money,get what you want
The cool factor would be to get a new truck, But the smart move would be to get something practical and efficient... spend wisely
A good move would be to finance part of it , even if its a $5000 car,put down $3-4000 and finance the rest. ESTABLISH YOUR CREDIT
Keep us posted
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Originally Posted by fcancer

Your dad chipping in to help is a totally different story,then your dad buying you a car
Good for you Jarred,
YOU work and save , hell its your money,get what you want
The cool factor would be to get a new truck, But the smart move would be to get something practical and efficient... spend wisely
A good move would be to finance part of it , even if its a $5000 car,put down $3-4000 and finance the rest. ESTABLISH YOUR CREDIT
Keep us posted
Thanks. I will definetly keep you guys posted

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