Stop Making Fun Of Buyers Of $50,000+ F-150s
07-29-2015, 03:27 PM
#11
Or morons who are up to their eyeballs in debt.
Honestly, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That kind of money for a pick up??? F that!!! I bought my F-150 from a friend. He has been an ASE certified mechanic working at the same Ford dealer for 28 years. He bought my F-150 brand new and took excellent care of it. He only decided to sell because he had a chance to get a 2014 Raptor. I paid $8k for my truck and it only has 82,000 miles.
Imagine paying $60k for a pick up. Now deduct say $15k for a trade in value or down payment. You are still financing $45k over say 6 years. Christ at 0% interest that's $625.00 a month!!! For a pick up??? Again....F that!
I bought my vacation home in 1997. I paid $52k and put $5k down. My mortgage is $350 a month and now my home is worth $185k. Keep pissing money away on big $ vehicles trying to impress the next guy. Just dumb
Honestly, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That kind of money for a pick up??? F that!!! I bought my F-150 from a friend. He has been an ASE certified mechanic working at the same Ford dealer for 28 years. He bought my F-150 brand new and took excellent care of it. He only decided to sell because he had a chance to get a 2014 Raptor. I paid $8k for my truck and it only has 82,000 miles.
Imagine paying $60k for a pick up. Now deduct say $15k for a trade in value or down payment. You are still financing $45k over say 6 years. Christ at 0% interest that's $625.00 a month!!! For a pick up??? Again....F that!
I bought my vacation home in 1997. I paid $52k and put $5k down. My mortgage is $350 a month and now my home is worth $185k. Keep pissing money away on big $ vehicles trying to impress the next guy. Just dumb
Don't get me wrong -- I would L-O-V-E one of the new F150s, and I certainly don't begrudge anyone that is capable of purchasing one... I just have a really tough time swallowing the sticker prices of the vast majority of new truck and SUV offerings.
07-29-2015, 03:34 PM
#12
Senior Member
As the thread title says - stop making fun of the $50k buyers and start making fun of THESE people! lol
To each their own. I agree with the sentiment of "why"? I personally wouldn't do it for two reasons. First, as many have stated above, it's not necessary for my tastes and sense of economics. I suppose if I had it to pi$$ away I might consider it, but I sure don't have it to begin with!
Second, and more important to me, that markup is nearly 100% profit for the automaker. I simply won't pay it knowing what the average automaker earns right down to the people on the line and comparing it to what we can afford to pay our crew at my employer.
I had to tread lightly many moons ago when a close business associate and major customer pulled into our lot with a Lincoln pick up. It had a few more bells and whistles but it was basically the same thing as my black F150 at the time - but was about $28k more than I paid for mine.
I just smiled and said "This is REALLY nice."
To each their own. I agree with the sentiment of "why"? I personally wouldn't do it for two reasons. First, as many have stated above, it's not necessary for my tastes and sense of economics. I suppose if I had it to pi$$ away I might consider it, but I sure don't have it to begin with!
Second, and more important to me, that markup is nearly 100% profit for the automaker. I simply won't pay it knowing what the average automaker earns right down to the people on the line and comparing it to what we can afford to pay our crew at my employer.
I had to tread lightly many moons ago when a close business associate and major customer pulled into our lot with a Lincoln pick up. It had a few more bells and whistles but it was basically the same thing as my black F150 at the time - but was about $28k more than I paid for mine.
I just smiled and said "This is REALLY nice."
07-29-2015, 03:44 PM
#13
Senior Member
Update your Google-fu Daniel-son. 
If you want to save big, you more then often need to shop nationwide and not be cornered into your own market. I'm in Chicago, so I search nationwide for deals because cost of living here is very high. I'll gladly drive to save $5,000....
If you want to save big, you more then often need to shop nationwide and not be cornered into your own market. I'm in Chicago, so I search nationwide for deals because cost of living here is very high. I'll gladly drive to save $5,000....
I suppose location is relative to price.
Stuff like this is an absolute joke. Almost 40k for a 4 year old truck with 101k on it.
http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...esults:results page
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nobog (07-30-2015)
07-29-2015, 03:49 PM
#14
Senior Member
considering Ford is selling all of the high end trucks they can make for record profits, you nay sayers are in the vast minority.
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07-29-2015, 04:32 PM
#15
...... and that means that they are the minority bud.
XLT's outsell Platinums probably 10 to 1.
It's not because Platinums aren't nice, it's simply because the market won't sustain a majority stake in $20,000+ in options.
Ford is DEFINITELY getting more loyalty in sales right now, so this is a market experiment IMO.
The new F150 is pretty badass looking and 700lbs lighter. GM had the worst year in private
sales and recalls in 2014. They relied MUCH MORE heavily on fleet sales to make those sales numbers.
Ford didn't have to resort to fleet sales.
GM is also doing a 2 year total front end revamp so that's REALLY says something about it's truck NOT being received well
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07-29-2015, 04:38 PM
#16
I don't get the argument that "Oh you could buy a fancy half-ton or you could buy a diesel instead"
Why the hell would I want to have less features, a crappy ride, worse fuel economy, worse to park, cheap plasticky cabin, less cabin space and higher maintenance costs for the same price? Not everyone wants a massive heavy duty truck. If you don't need a heavy duty I don't understand this fascination of getting the biggest, baddest truck you can have for the money at the expense of true luxury features.
Why the hell would I want to have less features, a crappy ride, worse fuel economy, worse to park, cheap plasticky cabin, less cabin space and higher maintenance costs for the same price? Not everyone wants a massive heavy duty truck. If you don't need a heavy duty I don't understand this fascination of getting the biggest, baddest truck you can have for the money at the expense of true luxury features.
Diversity in attraction.
Lets face facts from a "Truck" perspective.
> the F250/350 will yank the rear end out of any F150.
> the Superduty is built to last several hundred thousand miles of commercial duty
> the Superduty can pull, tow, haul, more.
So in the end it boils down to what the consumer is looking for.
But the SuperDuty is far more of a working man's truck that JUSTIFIES that expense Ford is asking.
Me personally, I have wanted a SuperDuty since 2003 but for obvious reasons of the
6.0L / 6.4L debacles with International, I wouldn't buy one.
Today, I still can't justify the expense of one because frankly I don't use the truck
for it's intended purpose and I liked the F150 better. I have zero doubts the F250/350
would have outlasted my truck tho. If I plowed, I'd have gotten a Superduty.
So from a perspective of looking at what $55,000 can buy......to me it's a no brainer
to buy the vehicle that will ENDURE and return your investment far better. (Opinions will vary)
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07-29-2015, 04:40 PM
#17
You definitely were smart and after Cash for Clunkers that's a good deal.
I think the Cash for Clunkers program totally jack holed the used car price points that we see today.
07-29-2015, 04:46 PM
#18
I seriously just can't figure out what these folks do for a living, in order to afford these vehicles. Even when I was working as a corporate associate for an AMLAW 100 law firm, there's no way in heck I could afford these trucks. I'm guessing alot are successful entrepreneurs with accumulated $ or guys with at least $200k+ incomes...
Remember the Community Reinvestment Act that gave everyone with no equity financing for homes and the massive bubble, and totally destructive crash that ensued in 2006 ?? Welcome to the auto loan bubble.
Gotta keep up with the Jones!!!!
That's why you see $75,000 Suburbans and $65,000 Tahoes and $90,000 Escalades driven by people living in the ghetto, or trailer parks. People overfinance their lifestyles.
07-29-2015, 06:18 PM
#19
Senior Member
Precisely why I bought a gently used low mileage truck for 24k. Sure, I could do a 900/month payment on 60k, but why?
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homeskizzle (07-31-2015)
07-29-2015, 06:32 PM
#20
Senior Member
If people are willing to buy a 60K truck, Ford should offer something to that market.
If the government is 18 trillion in debt, why should consumers worry about 100K in debt. If the government goes bankrupt no one is gonna collect your debt either.
XLT's are nice trucks and have nice options. They are still somewhat overpriced.
If the government is 18 trillion in debt, why should consumers worry about 100K in debt. If the government goes bankrupt no one is gonna collect your debt either.
XLT's are nice trucks and have nice options. They are still somewhat overpriced.