Is it me? Or is everyone on the GM truck bandwagon?
08-25-2014, 01:26 AM
#131
I doubt that had anything to do with there being more Ford fans than GM on that particular forum. I bet there was actually an equal amount of both Ford and GM fanboys, but some of the GM fanboys voted for themselves!
I wonder if this thread here took place on a GM truck forum, if they would say Ford fanboys are the worst ? Nah.
Confirmation bias:
Confirmation bias is the tendency for people to (consciously or unconsciously) seek out information that conforms to their pre-existing view points, and subsequently ignore information that goes against them, both positive and negative
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
It works with any brand substituted in, fanboys are fanboys. Pickup trucks attract the worst.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
The only thing all those quotes that you posted prove, is that the people hating on Gm faboys seem to be extremely angry over something extremely stupid. In their attempt to show how bad Gm fanboys are, they've made themselves look like idiots. You didn't notice that aspect of it though. You were too busy nodding your head and feeling superior.
Last edited by johndog82; 08-25-2014 at 03:25 PM.
08-25-2014, 01:36 AM
#132
Senior Member
most younger guys around my area drive older gms and mod them out where as the older guys drive both newer f150s and the 14' silverados/seiras. South Louisiana is loaded with gm faithfuls so in response to the OP, yeah there's a lot of new gen silverados here. I'm curious to see if people jump on the 15' f150 bandwagon lol.
08-25-2014, 06:12 AM
#133
Senior Member
I'll admit, before I bought my Raptor I went to look at a Silverado and whatever the GM equivalent was.
I'm a fan of the LS engines and I knew you could squeeze tons of power out of them.
Anyway, I had already seen a Raptor but it was a 5.4, the salesman said there was a three month wait for the 6.2.
I finally pin down a salesman at the GM dealership and said I could only get their 6.2 if I bought a 2500. They wanted almost 50k for an extended cab 2500 with cloth interior and no options.
I laughed at him and went back to Ted Britt Ford in Chantilly - fully loaded 6.2 Raptor 48k OTD.
There's a reason they went broke.
I'm a fan of the LS engines and I knew you could squeeze tons of power out of them.
Anyway, I had already seen a Raptor but it was a 5.4, the salesman said there was a three month wait for the 6.2.
I finally pin down a salesman at the GM dealership and said I could only get their 6.2 if I bought a 2500. They wanted almost 50k for an extended cab 2500 with cloth interior and no options.
I laughed at him and went back to Ted Britt Ford in Chantilly - fully loaded 6.2 Raptor 48k OTD.
There's a reason they went broke.
Three quarter and 1 ton since 2007 have had only one gutless gas engine option... the 6 liter. The rectangular port head equipped ones are useless compared to the cathedral port LQ4 they replaced. It's either an LY6 or L96... one isn't flex fuel and the other is.... and that covers right through from 2007 to current.
I ordered a 2010 6.2 powered slt extended cab 4x4 half ton in 2009 with the max trailer package and 373 ' s. It impressed me so much when it showed up I told them to keep it and shove it up their @$$.
Last edited by 1994Vmax; 08-25-2014 at 06:15 AM.
08-25-2014, 06:15 AM
#134
I assume you meant to say Truck Sales. But since you didn't....
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-new-auto-s...-10-2013-while
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-new-auto-s...-10-2013-while
The link you provided shows conglomerate sales totals.
Ford is viewed as a Brand, as well as a conglomerate (Ford & Lincoln)
GM is not a brand, it's a conglomerate of 4 vehicle brands. (Chevy, Buick, Cadillac, GMC)
Ford is Ford motor co's anchor brand.
Chevy is General Motor's anchor brand.
Ford outsells Chevy. Period.
GM needs 4 brands to outsell Ford's total sales.
Lincoln is really a joke in terms of sales for Ford Motor Co.
So we can all agree Cadillac & Buick outsell Lincoln by a good margin.
True.
GM uses 2 truck brands to outsell Ford's single brand in half ton's, correct.
Last edited by CreepinDeth; 08-25-2014 at 06:35 AM.
08-30-2014, 11:17 AM
#135
Senior Member
The 6.2 has never been installed in any three quarter or 1 ton to date. It's a half ton only engine. It came in the Denali and Escalade only in 07 and 08. Loaded crew cab models could get it in 09 ( so slt and ltz only). Then in 2010 through 2013 you could get it in any lt/ltz or sle/slt extended or crew cab truck.... 2wd or 4x4. Now for 14 the new L86 direct injected 6.2 is back only in the loaded models again. Three quarter and 1 ton since 2007 have had only one gutless gas engine option... the 6 liter. The rectangular port head equipped ones are useless compared to the cathedral port LQ4 they replaced. It's either an LY6 or L96... one isn't flex fuel and the other is.... and that covers right through from 2007 to current. I ordered a 2010 6.2 powered slt extended cab 4x4 half ton in 2009 with the max trailer package and 373 ' s. It impressed me so much when it showed up I told them to keep it and shove it up their @$$.
Game, set, match - Ford.
08-31-2014, 03:42 AM
#137
Senior Member
Looked at the first one again and was like hmm can't be right. Here's a better one. Idk bout gm selling more trucks even combined...
Last edited by Bryson; 08-31-2014 at 03:44 AM.
08-31-2014, 11:44 AM
#138
GM Is Dead
I wouldn't buy any GM product today knowing what I know about the company's greed and unethical behavior. Come on......they haven't even learned their lesson from the Corviar scandal back in the 70s. I hope Obama's Justice Department is gonna prosecute the people responsible for the cover up with the key switches that killed people. From what I've read, they tried to fix the problem while vehicles were still in production but didn't change the part number so they couldn't identify the bad switches once the vehicles were in service. For that reason alone, I wouldn't have one in my driveway.
They have recalled 13.8 million vehicles so far this year, more than they've sold in the past 5 years. It blows past the previous annual recall record of 10.75 million vehicles, set in 2004. Really? check it out at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5367478.html
Ford is spending allot of money re-tooling their factor for the aluminum body trucks and they've done a great job with design of the Eco-Boost engines. I hope these engines will past the test of time. Allot stuff spinnin around and allot of air and fuel movin through the engine. They have 126 patents pending on the software that manages the engine and power train. And they didn't need a taxpayer bail out after the recession. In my opinion we should have let GM go broke and saved allot of lives.
I'm a FORD man and always will be.
They have recalled 13.8 million vehicles so far this year, more than they've sold in the past 5 years. It blows past the previous annual recall record of 10.75 million vehicles, set in 2004. Really? check it out at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5367478.html
Ford is spending allot of money re-tooling their factor for the aluminum body trucks and they've done a great job with design of the Eco-Boost engines. I hope these engines will past the test of time. Allot stuff spinnin around and allot of air and fuel movin through the engine. They have 126 patents pending on the software that manages the engine and power train. And they didn't need a taxpayer bail out after the recession. In my opinion we should have let GM go broke and saved allot of lives.
I'm a FORD man and always will be.
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11-01-2014, 11:40 PM
#139
Senior Member
Seems as if in Western PA that Chevy dealers are willing to negotiate on price more than Ford dealers. The GMC is a nice looking truck but the 3.08 rear gear kills it.
11-02-2014, 04:07 PM
#140
IT nerd geek DORK NERD
With Ford, I found the truck I wanted, found the absolute lowest price, and called the local dealership and said "So-and-so has this truck for this price." The local dealership said "We'll match any deal."
And they did. I walked in around 2 p.m. and left around 6 p.m. They not only cleaned my new truck, gassed it up, etc., but helped me transfer the stuff to the new truck from my 4Runner, watched my son while we did all that, etc.
I'm not brand loyal; I AM customer service loyal.