How to pump gas OUT of pressure side (for chainsaws, ATV etc)
#11
Why not plumb a second line and fuel pump to your gas tank that you can run off of a separate switch. That way you wont f-up your factory fuel system and be able to turn it on/off as you please. That does beg the question though, why not just use regular gas cans?
#12
Senior Member
Why not buy a siphon pump?
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Arnold-Siph...0008/203051321
I'm sure you could get a bigger pump for faster use
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Arnold-Siph...0008/203051321
I'm sure you could get a bigger pump for faster use
#13
Member
The entire fuel system, fuel rail, lines, and the tank itself are part of the emission system, it is pressure regulated meaning the system constantly pressurizes and vents internally and is monitored via pressure sensor.
Monkeying with it will create all sorts of headaches that you really don't want to deal with.
Since you seem to be non receptive to other idea's I won't submit my suggestion as it will have nothing to do with your truck and it's tank.
Good luck.
Monkeying with it will create all sorts of headaches that you really don't want to deal with.
Since you seem to be non receptive to other idea's I won't submit my suggestion as it will have nothing to do with your truck and it's tank.
Good luck.
Last edited by RLXXI; 12-14-2014 at 08:52 PM.
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#14
Rnlcomp what you write is what I assumed, but hoping someone here has actual experience monkeying successfully.
The topic of my post is ways to pump gas out of my 36 gallon F150 tank whenever I need it, easily, safely. I'm tired of managing a fleet of gas cans. Tired of filling them at the station, loading, storing. Being careful with them not losing the caps, & cursing the newfangled safety cans that I hate. Tired of all 5 gallon cans I want to fill a 1 gallon if thats what I need. I already have a perfect 36 gallon storage tank and the gas in it is freshened often and safe too. Don't want a large storage tank, I have 3 "shops" I'd have to get a tank for each shop and I' be back trying to manage fuel again. Wondering if its getting stale, wondering if somebody's snookin' it, safety in a fire, & always running out. Managing it, Sounds like a bigger version of the problem I already have.
Using my 36gal F150 tank is always with me I'll use the one I already have.
KR your suggestion (add a hi-flow pump & switch) is my plan in case this option runs dry.
The topic of my post is ways to pump gas out of my 36 gallon F150 tank whenever I need it, easily, safely. I'm tired of managing a fleet of gas cans. Tired of filling them at the station, loading, storing. Being careful with them not losing the caps, & cursing the newfangled safety cans that I hate. Tired of all 5 gallon cans I want to fill a 1 gallon if thats what I need. I already have a perfect 36 gallon storage tank and the gas in it is freshened often and safe too. Don't want a large storage tank, I have 3 "shops" I'd have to get a tank for each shop and I' be back trying to manage fuel again. Wondering if its getting stale, wondering if somebody's snookin' it, safety in a fire, & always running out. Managing it, Sounds like a bigger version of the problem I already have.
Using my 36gal F150 tank is always with me I'll use the one I already have.
KR your suggestion (add a hi-flow pump & switch) is my plan in case this option runs dry.
Last edited by Fyaboy; 12-14-2014 at 09:25 PM.
#15
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http://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools...ZwpxoCjm7w_wcB
Btw, it's not a storage tank in your truck. Do you use your lawn mower gas tank to fill your other tools with fuel? There are many more logical ways than taping into your trucks fuel tank to get gas. Unsafe in so many ways!
Btw, it's not a storage tank in your truck. Do you use your lawn mower gas tank to fill your other tools with fuel? There are many more logical ways than taping into your trucks fuel tank to get gas. Unsafe in so many ways!
#16
If any of them had 36 gal tanks and were at filling stations regularly they would be a contender And if they had an onboard fuel pump too, and all I needed was a few fittings and some hose? Winner!
Pretty sure my truck fits the bill for this task, but still hoping for some genuine experience to happen across this post.
Last edited by Fyaboy; 12-14-2014 at 09:53 PM.
#17
Senior Member
Btw, it's not a storage tank in your truck. Do you use your lawn mower gas tank to fill your other tools with fuel? There are many more logical ways than taping into your trucks fuel tank to get gas. Unsafe in so many ways!
Maybe if no one pipes up to say "Great idea, go for it", he may take the hint. If not, we can look for him in the news. Maybe like this.
http://www.koat.com/news/pickup-truc...erque/30216450
#18
Still need help from someone who's modifying modern vehicles with ingenuity, skill and positive thinking (not just luck). Need to know if the ECU truly won't allow fuel bled off the rail.
I may have discovered what the problem is, I may use more fuel from gas cans than most folks. I'm not planning to pump out of the truck into a chainsaw. I want to fill a couple 5 gal cans & premix cans, from my truck, anytime, anywhere. From my cabin its half hour drive to a gas station, and I don't like to put gas cans in my wifes car or carry on a motorcycle. I dont like them in the bed either, its a rough road and they often bloat up and leak. Been 4 years knowing I need a better way and this is probaby the way. I get that its hard to understand if you're surrounded by gas stations.
Or maybe should have posted in the custom fab forum....
Last edited by Fyaboy; 12-16-2014 at 03:32 AM.
#19
Senior Member
They make bed-mounted fuel storage tanks with pumps. They're very common around here.
Tractor supply and others sell them, no need to alter your truck's fuel system. The pump and fuel system in your truck is designed to deliver fuel to your engine in a precision manner, and isn't made for mass delivery of fuel. It's a high pressure low volume pump, and your application begs for a high volume low pressure system.
Tractor supply and others sell them, no need to alter your truck's fuel system. The pump and fuel system in your truck is designed to deliver fuel to your engine in a precision manner, and isn't made for mass delivery of fuel. It's a high pressure low volume pump, and your application begs for a high volume low pressure system.
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#20
Senior Member
They make bed-mounted fuel storage tanks with pumps. They're very common around here.
Tractor supply and others sell them, no need to alter your truck's fuel system. The pump and fuel system in your truck is designed to deliver fuel to your engine in a precision manner, and isn't made for mass delivery of fuel. It's a high pressure low volume pump, and your application begs for a high volume low pressure system.
Tractor supply and others sell them, no need to alter your truck's fuel system. The pump and fuel system in your truck is designed to deliver fuel to your engine in a precision manner, and isn't made for mass delivery of fuel. It's a high pressure low volume pump, and your application begs for a high volume low pressure system.
Other, less expensive tanks seem to be usable, until you read the fine print:
This tank must be securely mounted to the pickup bed. Do not cut or weld on this tank under any circumstances. Do not pressurize this tank over 8 PSI. This tank is to be used only as a transfer tank and solely for private use. It must not, under any circumstances, be connected to the vehicle's existing fuel system as an auxiliary fuel tank. You must use a fuel filter in your pump system. You must use an automatic shut-off nozzle. Remove the pre-vent cap slowly with caution since 2.5 PSI of pressure and accumulate in this tank. Tanks meet D.O.T. requirements for combustible liquids. They are not designed for flammable liquids such as gasoline. Usage of tanks is regulated by states and sometimes local ordinances. Contact your local fire chief or fire marshal to determine your local restrictions.