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Old 11-04-2010, 05:26 PM   #11
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Isn't that like buying a $50 sweater on asle for $20 but paying tax as if it were full $50.
If you buy a $50 sweater at Walmart, you pay tax on the $50. Even if you send in for a $20 rebate from the sweater manufacturer.

Sales and rebates are apples and oranges.
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The dealer may be right. In actuality, the dealer has nothing to do with the rebates. They come straight from Ford. The dealer just gives you the rebates, and then they get the money from Ford as a convenience to you.
So in reality you are paying the price before the rebate.

For them to overcharge you in taxes just doesn't make sense. It's not going into their pocket, they have no reason to do it.
If I'm understanding correctly it doesnt sound like they are overcharging him in taxes. They are just merly taxing the full sale price of the vehicle (whatever they negotiated down to). What it sounds like the OP wants them to do is take the sales price less the rebates and then tax that amount...which would truly be nice, but I don't see it happening.
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You pay tax on anything that says rebate. Anything you get them to take of through negotiating isn't taxed so make sure they write it up correctly.
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No doubt. Nothing wrong with trying to save a few bucks.
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So, should I ask them to take more money off in "negotiation" and tell them to keep the rebates?? I dont follow
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You will get the rebates no matter what. They are a "thankyou" for buying the car, so to speak.

You want to try and negotiate them down on the MSRP as possible and that will cause your taxable amount to go down. I would say you should NEVER pay the sticker price.

They will try and make it seem as though they are doing you a favor by giving you the rebates, but remind them that this is not from them...it is from the factory. You need to set the rebates aside in your mind and get them down as low as they will go (preferably invoice or lower depending on where you live) and THEN figure in the rebates.
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I think it depends some from state to state. I know that my truck was taxed on the full sticker price. I bought it in one county but the county I live in has a 1% higher sales tax, so...I had to pay an additional $430 when I bought my tag.

Sucks, but....whad'ya gonna do?
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Go to Edmunds.com. Got to the new truck section and fill out the info for the truck. Get the dealer invoice price, get price quotes from other dealers, and offer them $500 above their invoice price.
That's BEFORE any rebates, or trade in even come into the numbers.
It's a buyers market now. Trucks and cars aren't exactly flying off of the lots.

Get your own financing ahead of time also. At least find out what rates you can get on your own. Don't let the dealer set your finance rate.
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Go to Edmunds.com. Got to the new truck section and fill out the info for the truck. Get the dealer invoice price, get price quotes from other dealers, and offer them $500 above their invoice price.
That's BEFORE any rebates, or trade in even come into the numbers.
It's a buyers market now. Trucks and cars aren't exactly flying off of the lots.

Get your own financing ahead of time also. At least find out what rates you can get on your own. Don't let the dealer set your finance rate.
you're generous, I generally start 500 under invoice
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I paid tax on the sticker price. Including rebates. I questioned this practice too, but the state dictates the rules.
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