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Old 10-20-2014, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HardcoreOffroading
Maybe not recorded but theres wayyy more than 95 with issues
You are correct. I don't know why anyone would even think, let alone write that. The have more than 95 completely baseless complaints from people who are lost and helpless. "95" is the real reason to
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You are correct. I don't know why anyone would even think, let alone write that. The have more than 95 completely baseless complaints from people who are lost and helpless. "95" is the real reason to
Nobody said there was only 95 people that had the issue. It was stated that there were 95 complaints to the NHTSA.
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Why do so many people think Turbos are not reliable??? Turbos have been used on planes for nearly 100 years. Talk about needing reliability. And furthermore, they are so "unreliable" that Ford and other major manufacturers decided to put them in many of their vehicles and stake their reputations on them?

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ok ill chime in lol...i work for a ford dealer..i drive both the eco and 5.0...while i own a 5.0 i wouldnt hesitate to buy a 3.5 eco...we just didnt have an eco in the color combo and options i wanted
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Originally Posted by GriffFX4
Why do so many people think Turbos are not reliable??? Turbos have been used on planes for nearly 100 years. Talk about needing reliability. And furthermore, they are so "unreliable" that Ford and other major manufacturers decided to put them in many of their vehicles and stake their reputations on them?

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It's not just the turbo itself in question. It's whether the engine can stand up to the stress from the extra power the turbo adds.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been lock yet. All eco vs 5.0 eventually get locked.
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If there is a weak link in a compressed engine it's the injectors. I'm no mechanic but would hazard a guess that these fail more regularly than the turbo.
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Originally Posted by depami
It's not just the turbo itself in question. It's whether the engine can stand up to the stress from the extra power the turbo adds. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been lock yet. All eco vs 5.0 eventually get locked.
Fair enough but the same still applies. Why would Ford, who is staking its reputation on the EcoBoost for all applications, build the rest of the engine subpar and unable to withstand the use of a turbo? It's a purpose built Turbo engine. Engineers know what is required to have an engine last with forced induction. It's not like they took a engine out of a Escapes and throw on s turbo and inter cooler as an after thought like some high school kids with a civic.
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Originally Posted by GriffFX4
Why do so many people think Turbos are not reliable??? Turbos have been used on planes for nearly 100 years. Talk about needing reliability. And furthermore, they are so "unreliable" that Ford and other major manufacturers decided to put them in many of their vehicles and stake their reputations on them?

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Try not to confuse the issues or make false analogies. As a plane goes up, pressure goes down. Turbos bring the pressure back up. Much like diesel engines, the pistons are much larger. A typical 6 cylinder engine is 540 ci, which is a large v8 for a car. Planes are also designed to run 75% of peak power for the life of the engine, which is 2000 hours. Many planes with turbos don't make it nearly that far either because turbos do shorten engine life. You pointed out falsely that planes need "reliability". That is true, but the rayjay turbos cost thousand of dollars and don't cause engine failure. When the turbo goes out, performance goes down--that plane can fly without it.

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Originally Posted by BobSchuman
Try not to confuse the issues or make false analogies. As a plane goes up, pressure goes down. Turbos bring the pressure back up. Much like diesel engines, the pistons are much larger. A typical 6 cylinder engine is 540 ci, which is a large v8 for a car. Planes are also designed to run 75% of peak power for the life of the engine, which is 2000 hours. Many planes with turbos don't make it nearly that far either because turbos do shorten engine life. You pointed out falsely that planes need "reliability". That is true, but the rayjay turbos cost thousand of dollars and don't cause engine failure. When the turbo goes out, performance goes down--that plane can fly without it.
Ok, and...
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Originally Posted by BobSchuman
You pointed out falsely that planes need "reliability". That is true,
I hope you can see where one may not follow you on this one...


I still fail to see why turbos in planes are more viable than in cars/trucks?

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