Dealer crap (brakes & fuel economy)
04-18-2014, 08:54 PM
#12
Senior Member
With a crew cab, heavy duty payload package and a 3.73 rear I only average on the lifetime mpg 15.1. Did you ever get the truck up to highway speed and then reset it to see what the mpgs were?
04-18-2014, 09:40 PM
#13
This is my $.02 worth on this fuel issue. I am a Ford Tech and have been for 13 years. I do countless fuel mileage tests. I too reset when i reach cruising speed on the highway. Ford does not allow for acceleration on to the highway. Seems like the tech did the highway part correctly. In town is a little different as it needs to be reset again and driven around town. You say he drove it 2 miles? That does seem a little short but gas is expensive also Ford does not pay the dealer for these issues unless a part is replaced and since most shops are on the flat rate pay scale this means your tech prob didn't get paid either. Neither of which should effect a good diagnosis. Now you said your PCM was reprogrammed with an update? I assume you had an issue bec we are not to reprogram unless instructed to do so by a pin point test or our tech hotline. Reprogramming of your PCM will reset your fuel trims thus all the work you have put into easy accelerating and feathering the pedal to get your good mileage will be erased and it all goes back to factory fuel trims. So until the PCM relearns you and it's spark plugs, fuel injectors, etc all of which have 10k miles on them your mileage will suffer. I believe it will return in time. I hope that helps some. I do feel for you as fuel is not cheap here either. $1.46/L or $5.54 a US gallon.
Flat RAPE pay you meant? Yeah man I felt that pain for 11 years, glad I got away from the dealer but to add to this a little, I have the 5.0 and had an odd shift pattern and fantastic fuel economy,....UNTIL I flashed my pcm with the latest calibration,(have my own VCMII and IDS), it fixed the trans shifting but economy dropped 2-3 mpg.
The op has a valid complaint, hoping Ford will put out a TSB or something because I would like my fuel economy back as well. If that means going back to the odd shift pattern screw it, I like the way it shifts now. OASIS shows nothing as of the last time I checked but my access ran out a few months ago.
I may reflash with as-built for the pcm just to see.
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Last edited by RLXXI; 04-18-2014 at 10:32 PM.
04-18-2014, 10:35 PM
#14
If you read my message again, that's what the technician did (see attached image).
04-19-2014, 07:36 AM
#15
Senior Member
I saw that the tech did it, BUT did you do it! Are you just taking his word for it? Doesn't matter what anyone says, if didn't or can't duplicate what the tech said I would assume he was lying or stretching the truth.
04-19-2014, 09:02 AM
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2011 Ecoboost- 50,000 KM
Brakes pulsated 20KM rotors machined 32KM Rotors warped replaced with new under warranty. 50km Went to Midas for pads only they called said rotors severely pitted with rust! Can't machine them. Went to Ford Pintree Lincoln they said sorry you went someplace else nothing we can do. He tried to blame the salt on the roads ect... So I asked why after only 20,000 KM on these rotors did they fail with rust? So everyone needs to change the rotors after 20,000KM. I have now contacted Ford and awaiting their official response.
I have had the tranny re-flashed and 5th gear stays in too long for my liking. The mileage has gotten worse 16.8 Litres/100KM granted it gets better on the highway but not as good as when I purchased it. I have put in fuel injector cleaner recently to eliminate the bogging I was feeling.
I like the truck just don't feel the brakes are of great quality in fact I don't like them at all. Midas changed my rotors and pads over $500 looking to recover a portion from Ford otherwise small claims court I will go.
Brakes pulsated 20KM rotors machined 32KM Rotors warped replaced with new under warranty. 50km Went to Midas for pads only they called said rotors severely pitted with rust! Can't machine them. Went to Ford Pintree Lincoln they said sorry you went someplace else nothing we can do. He tried to blame the salt on the roads ect... So I asked why after only 20,000 KM on these rotors did they fail with rust? So everyone needs to change the rotors after 20,000KM. I have now contacted Ford and awaiting their official response.
I have had the tranny re-flashed and 5th gear stays in too long for my liking. The mileage has gotten worse 16.8 Litres/100KM granted it gets better on the highway but not as good as when I purchased it. I have put in fuel injector cleaner recently to eliminate the bogging I was feeling.
I like the truck just don't feel the brakes are of great quality in fact I don't like them at all. Midas changed my rotors and pads over $500 looking to recover a portion from Ford otherwise small claims court I will go.
04-19-2014, 10:35 AM
#17
Nobody drives their truck by just having it dropped on a highway already doing 65 mph. Not to mention the numbers reported in the mileage computer are overstated by 1-1.5 MPG when compared to manual calculation of gas in, has out, and miles travelled.
04-19-2014, 10:55 AM
#18
Senior Member
But you can't go by your type of records. How do they know you were not towing or hauling a heavy load up a steep hill? They don't know your driving habits and could careless. If they take it on the highway and go 65mph and reset it and get 20 mpgs for argument sake. Then you should be able to do the same or better yet go on the test drive with them.
I know in your opinion your mpgs dropped over the past few months or so. But it could be the climate, weather conditions, tire pressure, driving habits, what your hauling or the type of fuel used ( what octane).
Also I know a few gas stations that water down their gas to make a few extra bucks. Switch gas stations for a few fill ups. If any gas station is selling bad fuel, that will kill your mpgs.
I know in your opinion your mpgs dropped over the past few months or so. But it could be the climate, weather conditions, tire pressure, driving habits, what your hauling or the type of fuel used ( what octane).
Also I know a few gas stations that water down their gas to make a few extra bucks. Switch gas stations for a few fill ups. If any gas station is selling bad fuel, that will kill your mpgs.
04-19-2014, 11:18 AM
#20
Martin
But you can't go by your type of records. How do they know you were not towing or hauling a heavy load up a steep hill? They don't know your driving habits and could careless. If they take it on the highway and go 65mph and reset it and get 20 mpgs for argument sake. Then you should be able to do the same or better yet go on the test drive with them. I know in your opinion your mpgs dropped over the past few months or so. But it could be the climate, weather conditions, tire pressure, driving habits, what your hauling or the type of fuel used ( what octane). Also I know a few gas stations that water down their gas to make a few extra bucks. Switch gas stations for a few fill ups. If any gas station is selling bad fuel, that will kill your mpgs.