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Will there ever be a diesel f150?

stysinjimmy

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Yes it is called a 4bt. It is a Cummings engine used mostly in bread trucks. If you go to 4btswaps.com there is a lot of people putting these engines in just about anything.

egoboost

Like Mr. Cummings stated, there are 4BT conversions using Cummins engines. This question has been beaten to death in just about any Ford pickup forum known to man. Ford has no plans to produce and sell a diesel F150 at this time. Maybe if or when Super Duty diesels are no longer a big seller they might look into it. If they did it now it would surely put a dent in their big truck sales.

BigNick98

I doubt it. The reason people buy a diesel if for towing power. And with that comes heavier axles as well as more leafs a heavier frame and such. That would therefore turn a half ton into either a 3/4 ton or 1 ton. Not saying it won't happen just saying it would kinda be pointless. It would be capable of hauling more that it could support lol

BlackFx4x4

Diesels do get better fuel mileage, to a point. I half agree about the turning the 1/2 ton into a 3/4 ton thing. They might buy them for the towing power, and agreed, that comes with the heavier items, such as frame, axles, etc. However, if they put a smaller I-4 diesel with a turbo on it, that might limit the power to items you'd pull with a 1/2 ton.

One of the other reasons they won't put a diesel in a 1/2 ton is price. Diesel motors are built to run, for a long, long time. With that extra durability, along with other pieces comes a rise in price in the motor, as much as an extra $3k I've heard and seen on 3/4 tons. To Joe Blow who just wants a truck to pull his camper or toy hauling trailer on occasion, it doesn't make sense to spend that extra money.

I personally would love to have a diesel 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton. As long as the body wouldn't rust off (here in Michigan), and the trans held up, it would probably last me a good 12 years plus.

zap

Cummins is currently working on a 4.2 V6 (yes based off the Essex V6 many of us have) for the Ram 1500's. They are also working on a 5.6 V8 for the Ram 1500s that may also delete the Hemi option from the 3/4 tons. D-Max is working on a V6 for GM halfs. Release keeps getting pushed back however...thank you EPA and your BS regulations.

When you start talking about diesels and towing...you don't care about power unless your talking about tractors. Its all about the torque. A 4BT can easily match a EB in torque (they make 365 lb-ft stock), but will hit it at 1600 rpm where the EB hits it at 2500 rpm by just swapping injectors and adjusting some things in the injection pump. Guys who have done this swap are currently seeing between 28 and 32 mpg on the 3.9 engine (but that will start dropping quickly if you want to bring it up to current emissions standards).

Back in the 80's, F150's were sold with diesels in South America. Personally, I think Ford is trying to focus on the EB so they don't have to deal with the new EPA regs on diesels. The EPA is controlling the diesel market right now. For instance, current emissions equipment are taxing the engines by a good 10 mpg (estimated from the fact tuned 6.6's and 6.7 Cummins diesels are making 25-26 mpg with all emissions deleted). I think Ford is just thinking that they can get similar results through the EcoBoost line.

GlennRMK

I just sold my 03 Cummins which was a great truck.

I replaced it with 2011 F150 FX4 Supercrew Ecoboost.

I loved the diesel torque, pulling power and fuel economy but didn't like the rough ride or need the 3/4 ton part of it.

Ideally I wanted a half ton diesel, but nothing available. Would like to have a small displacement 3.5-5.0 diesel that gets 25 MPG and tows great.

Ecoboost felt the most diesel like of any gas engine I've driven, at least in terms of torque.

I looked at a new Duramax and Cummins (don't trust the Ford diesel after the 6.0 disaster) but couldn't justify the extra cost of the truck, extra cost of fuel, and rougher ride.

IMO, the EPA has killed the diesel appeal to me. All the emissions garbage and poor fuel economy has ruined it for me. Not to mention diesel used to be 40 cents a gallon less then regular (about 5 or 6 years ago) and now it is 45 cents more? We are getting raped on diesel fuel prices. That might be the most discouraging part of the whole ordeal for me.

Nice Sweater

Thats the second unmanly thing you've done today...

BassAckwards

For you guys talking about the upgrades to the F150 platform necessary to make it worthy and befitting of being mounted with a diesel. I would like to point out that the F150 has a Fully Boxed Frame and Super Duty's have Open-C Frames and IMO Boxed > Open-C. Less flex and when you increase the C-Channel gauge to make it as strong as the box you lose the weight advantage.

My point, if you add the suspension and axles and diesel F150 > Superduty IMO.

zap

The point of the boxed frame is to keep weight down and sacrifice as little strength as possible. The SD are designed with different loads in mind for which c channel frames work better which F150s are not.