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Old 10-02-2013, 09:59 PM
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I guess the dealership may have scratched my truck or something before I bought it and funked up my door. It is only noticeable in the sunlight and it is driving me crazy. I know absolutely nothing about paint and don't have a clue on how to try and take care of this so any advice would be great. Sorry the pic isn't that great but you can see it in my drivers door.

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Remove any wax first- dry and then clay the area. A light swirl remover on a orange pad should clear it right up, or a swirl remover on a hand polishing pad OR high quality microfiber cloth.
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So I should be able to do this hand wiping and not with a power buffer or anything.
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Depending on the amount of swirls, yes
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thekevin - So I should be able to do this hand wiping and not with a power buffer or anything.
YOU shouldn't have to do anything. Have the dealership fix the situation or pay to have it done.

If you happen to FUBAR the door thru your efforts, the onus is now yours.
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You will need to have a professional machine polish the truck with a machine polisher and the correct pad/polish to remove them completely. They are what we like to call "buffer trails" or "holograms" and they come from an inexperienced detailer with a high speed rotary and "rocks in a bottle" polish most of the time. Do NOT take it back to the dealer, they do not know how to fix it and will just keep removing more and more clear. I am a professional detailer as a side hobby and see this ALL the time from dealerships. If you make enough of a stink about it, you may be able to get the dealership to reimburse you for what you pay to have it fixed.

Where are you located? I can help you find someone reputable to bring the truck to.

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I would have the dealer pay to have it fixed, but don't take it back to them. Whatever they did REALLY messed up your paint. My Ford dealer put swirls into my paint for me, nice guys. Below is a pic of my truck when it was brand new, look at all the little holograms in the paint left from cheap microfibers used by an underpaid and underqualified detailer. I was disappointed..

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If the paint has holograms in it, it will take machine polishing to correct.
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I work(well used to, until i moved) at a dealer body shop. And have never sent out a vehicle looking like that. Yes i use the dreaded rotary buffer. But the polishes with grit (or rocks as one said) are a huge thing of the past. Haven't seen polish with grit (from 3m anyway. Which is what most body shops use) in about 6-7 years. Since trizact came out.


Your truck is simply a rushed buff job. Or use of a buffer on its edge, a big no-no. Never heard of removing clear by buffing. I've checked mill build before and after i buff, and its always been the same. Heating a spot up and moving the clear or burning, yes. I've heard of and definitely done that.

You are at a dilemma though. Bring it back, and risk it getting worse. Take it somewhere, and have to pay. Do it yourself, and depending on your knowledge, you could risk making it worse as well.

Were it me, i would take it to a real detail shop and pay prob $25 to get it done right. We would've done it for free at my last shop, just to gain your future business.
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Originally Posted by mbullock
I work(well used to, until i moved) at a dealer body shop. And have never sent out a vehicle looking like that. Yes i use the dreaded rotary buffer. But the polishes with grit (or rocks as one said) are a huge thing of the past. Haven't seen polish with grit (from 3m anyway. Which is what most body shops use) in about 6-7 years. Since trizact came out.


Your truck is simply a rushed buff job. Or use of a buffer on its edge, a big no-no. Never heard of removing clear by buffing. I've checked mill build before and after i buff, and its always been the same. Heating a spot up and moving the clear or burning, yes. I've heard of and definitely done that.

You are at a dilemma though. Bring it back, and risk it getting worse. Take it somewhere, and have to pay. Do it yourself, and depending on your knowledge, you could risk making it worse as well.

Were it me, i would take it to a real detail shop and pay prob $25 to get it done right. We would've done it for free at my last shop, just to gain your future business.
Every time you polish a vehicle with a machine, you are removing clear coat. Thats how it works. Also, just because you cannot feel anything in the polish, does not mean it is not tooo aggressive for the paint. the reason why this happens is because the person either used too high of a speed on a rotary, the wrong pad or the wrong polish. All three of those things have to be taken into account when polishing a vehicle, or you will get into trouble. I dont mean to come off harsh, I know it may look that way. Just wanted to clear that up!

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