2.7TT or 5.0?
01-14-2014, 06:45 AM
#41
Senior Member
If they made the 2.7TT a diesel, I think it might be more popular. But Ford won't do many diesel engines outside of heavy duty or for the overseas market. I would buy that in a heartbeat. Especially if it was an inline TT diesel.
I don't mind the smaller engines, but for hauling you need to at least have a big enough engine to support what you need. Not saying a blown 502, but the 3.5 would probably be the smallest displacement I would want if I had to tow anything. 2.7 would be good for gas mileage as the engine would theoretically weigh less and the truck is getting lighter (more HP to weight ratio). I personally like the sound of a V8, but I'm also fine with the 3.5EB.
I don't think that they would put a 5.0TT in our trucks simply because it would be more race oriented. I can see them putting a new lightning out with TT, but not an everday production truck meant for working. It wouldn't be cost effective, but man would it be a blast to drive. lol.
I don't mind the smaller engines, but for hauling you need to at least have a big enough engine to support what you need. Not saying a blown 502, but the 3.5 would probably be the smallest displacement I would want if I had to tow anything. 2.7 would be good for gas mileage as the engine would theoretically weigh less and the truck is getting lighter (more HP to weight ratio). I personally like the sound of a V8, but I'm also fine with the 3.5EB.
I don't think that they would put a 5.0TT in our trucks simply because it would be more race oriented. I can see them putting a new lightning out with TT, but not an everday production truck meant for working. It wouldn't be cost effective, but man would it be a blast to drive. lol.
01-14-2014, 07:04 AM
#42
On more meds than ymeski
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01-14-2014, 07:08 AM
#43
Senior Member
^^What he said. lol
01-14-2014, 07:46 AM
#44
Senior Member
I go by the old maxim that new is good, but I want it when it's not new. Being on the leading edge is fine, being on the bleeding edge isn't.
I try not to ever by a newly redesigned vehicle in its first year. I knew that these were coming, and bought my 2013 a month ago, knowing I'd likely not have to deal with it.
New body metal, new engines = wait at least a model year.
I try not to ever by a newly redesigned vehicle in its first year. I knew that these were coming, and bought my 2013 a month ago, knowing I'd likely not have to deal with it.
New body metal, new engines = wait at least a model year.
01-14-2014, 08:50 AM
#45
Give him a break, he just wanted to post his pictures.
I doubt the twin turbo 2.7 could ever handle that picnic table anyways.
I still don't get it - let's say the 2.7 has 50-60 less hp and tq than the 3.5, it's all of a sudden not capable of doing anything because it isn't top tier ?
I doubt the twin turbo 2.7 could ever handle that picnic table anyways.
I still don't get it - let's say the 2.7 has 50-60 less hp and tq than the 3.5, it's all of a sudden not capable of doing anything because it isn't top tier ?
How did you know? Do you have a 30' table? The 2.7 will be fine I was one of the guys bashing the 3.5 over at the cummins forum, now I sing the praise!
01-14-2014, 09:01 AM
#46
If it comes in at + 320 HP and 375 ft lbs of torque it is no baby bottle truck. I'm wondering about these cams and direct fuel injection starting the motor with out starter engage when warmed up ? Then their is the aluminum guard rail theft thing to think about ? Lots of hoods, doors and boxes in the gone list next mornings. Maybe hard to cut lap top secure cables attached to parts ? Good insurance ! LOL
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01-14-2014, 09:24 AM
#48
Senior Member
Ford built the greatest truck in American history on wheezy V8s that were in the low 200s on power (some didn't even break that) and now we're worried about a modern engine with 370 ft. lbs. and whether it can tow or not? 
I'm fairly confident that any engine in the lineup is more than capable of towing what you can throw at it. If you can't, you needed a Super Duty all along.
I'm fairly confident that any engine in the lineup is more than capable of towing what you can throw at it. If you can't, you needed a Super Duty all along.
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01-14-2014, 01:50 PM
#49
Five-0 Ret.
So because it's small it's not durable? Post your scientific findings on how this makes sense?
The 2.7 has a very rugged block, and the rest of the internals are very rugged. It might need a few tweaks at first but I bet this motor will be around a long time.
I have owned both a Mitsubishi evo and Subaru sti both turbo sub 3.0 engines with tons of power, they were rugged!
The 2.7 will make great power and get great MPGs. I cannot wait to get a Fx4 2.7!
The 2.7 has a very rugged block, and the rest of the internals are very rugged. It might need a few tweaks at first but I bet this motor will be around a long time.
I have owned both a Mitsubishi evo and Subaru sti both turbo sub 3.0 engines with tons of power, they were rugged!
The 2.7 will make great power and get great MPGs. I cannot wait to get a Fx4 2.7!
01-14-2014, 02:01 PM
#50
[MENTION=160167]Northernexposure[/MENTION] stated "until I see different". It's his opinion, and I feel the same way. My question is did you tow with either of these ricers, did you do off road, do hill climbing, or general work site duties? If not, your comparing apples to oranges here. The rest of your statement is basically conjecture as this engine hasn't hit the real world yet.
I did some rally type driving on a few twisty dirt roads in the STi as well. If you doubt the abilities of these cars check out some WRC on YouTube!
The cars themselves were not made to tow but I know if you had the engine inside a truck it could have towed fine, they just made power higher up in the power band.
Ignorance will get you nowhere.
This 2.7 has hit the real world in testing and some extreme indoor rapid temperature drop/increase while going full on in a dyno.
Im sorry but these large inefficient V8s are done for and will never return. The new CAFE regulations, check em out.