FordLovinDelawarean

I know a guy who has his own construction company, and he is obsessed with Ford F250 diesels. He uses his as a work truck and for personal use. He currently has a 2004 F250 with the 6.0, and he has had some problems with it....expensive problems at that. It's not a horrible motor, but he wishes he had the 7.3.

lddrew

for a work truck I agree that a 7.3 is perhaps the best out there. but they are overpriced nowadays and getting up there in the years.

the new 6.4 PSD's are mean as hell, but they have their share of problems.

I don't believe in anything that says dodge on the steering wheel.

any 05-up duramax IMO is the perfect consumer diesel.

Ben the Isäntä

If I was building a mud truck, I would personally use a ford ranger with a 302. Smaller and lighter. Won't sink into the mud as easily as a full size truck!

lddrew

very true. it's amazing to me how much money people will sink into an all out mud truck..

Ben the Isäntä

A lot of my friends have old yotas that are beat to *****, and they out 4 wheel and out mud most people I know!! Those old yotas are amazing, I wouldn't want to beat up a nice diesel, those are fine for basic off roading, but I would rather have a designated 4 wheeling rig. So if it breaks, I still have my DD and I can fix my wheeling rig whenever I want.

lddrew

true story. I wouldn't have anything other than a 80's or 90's yota. things are damn near indestructible. trying to DD a mud truck is f'ing dumb IMO, sorry for sounding like I was flaming you, I misunderstood your goals

Ben the Isäntä

It's all good! No worries man! Misunderstandings happen! I didn't really state what I was planning on doing!

Eleven-eco

I wouldnt trust anybody who thinks the duramax is the best diesel out there post 05. "My .02 cents", whoever said the 6.0's are junk, just listens to his buddies who drive "cummings" powered pickups.

I had my choice when I bought my truck, and I still went with the 6.0. If you know what your looking for, and you drive like a human and not a maniac, the 6.0 is a great truck. Especially for what you can get em for right now. Everybody is so scared of the HG's and studs in the 6.0's, that they cant make a fair opinion or purchase. You can go through every year of every diesel pickup, and find multiple issues with these TUNED pickups. If you want reliability out of your diesel pickup, dont program it. That goes with gassers too.

7.3... Stock form the motor is just gutless. Any one that you find right now is going to have quite a few miles on it. It will show on the truck and in the interior. But if its a work truck, and you dont haul more than 10k EVERYDAY, this might be an option for you.

6.0... IMHO, the best year to look for in the 6.0's are build 2, 2006. Heres a thought for you. If the 6.0's are such POS's, why is it that the build 2 2006 6.0's have had less documented warranty work than any other year 7.3 or 6.4?

6.4... The hot rod of all the PSD's. My brother in law runs an 08 with the spartan 310 as his DD, and hasnt but a few tuner issues. Honestly, one of the reasons I didnt buy a 6.4, was because my brother in law drives one. The issues that you run into with these 6.4's is the DPF and collector system.

6.7... Been a good truck so far, and am considering trading the 06 for one. I just dont love it enough to pay 1k a month on one.

It irritates the **** out of me that somebody can just bad mouth a 6.0 PSD when its obvious that they dont anything about it. After reading and researching powerstrokenation for more than 3 years, the number one reason those 6.0's fail is because of hot tunes. BUT, second reason is because of lack of maintenance. The 6.0's thrive on regular maintenance. Fresh oil, clean coolant and clean filters. But isnt that what your supposed to do with a truck anyways?!?!

Im not any more knowledgeable than the next guy, nor am I bad mouthing anybody. But please dont just chime in that a product is junk, without a reason for thinking it. One last thing. I would buy Cummins over a Duramax anyday. The I6 is an extremely strong motor and reliable. Not to mention I wouldnt be scared to put it in 4LO unlike the IFS duramax's. I have more than a dozen friends, 5 of which are running stock D-max's since brand new, who have had excessive blow by, had headgaskets and studs replace, and have had the Allisons rebuild many times.

Didnt mean to start a war if I have. OP, if you want to by a 6.0, log onto a powerstroke forum, and start reading about what to look for. Powerstrokenation is the best from what I have found. I have had my truck for 2 years now with hot tunes, and I drive mildly, and havent had one issue. All about the maintenance.

Austin97

I agree. 6.0s from 2006 and 2007 had very few problems. Mainly leaking egr coolers and leaking injectors. The 6.4 is a bastard child. Like you said tons of power, but lots of leaking high pressure fuel pumps. You can't say even stock 7.3s are gutless.. they'll pull a house down and keep gettin it for 400,000 miles.

Have you driven a 6.7 yet? because they're incredible. The only thing that would keep me from getting one is like you said, the price and the fact oil changes are well over $100 due to the DEF that needs to be added every oil change.

Eleven-eco

Ive driven a few 6.7's now. I just cant justify pulling the trigger. Im going to wait a couple of years, and get the EcoBoost paid down, then probably do it. I think Ford did an incredible job with the Black Scorpion motor. What ford did with the EcoBoost for half tons, they did with the 6.7 for HD chassis. If the performance isnt enough to sell you on it, the interior options should be. GM has nothing even CLOSE to what Ford offers in the Lariats, much less the Harley editions and and KR models.

I misspoke when I said the 7.3's were gutless. You are right in saying they pull and pull and pull and pull.

I havent jumped on the 6.4 section of the nation too much. I have actually spent more time in the 6.7 area. So I couldnt argue too much about the downfalls of the last international motor, or the pros of it. I do know that the compound turbo runs smooth and strong, stock and tuned. And the motor seems to handle the (?)40 psi of boost well. My brother in law did say that he felt a slight shudder the other day in the transmission. But he has 85k on the clock, and 65k of that has been tuned and driven hard. He has no mercy on his trucks... NONE. He doesnt ever drive my truck. lol