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Old 08-22-2012, 05:47 PM   #61
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Making assumptions on one motor isn't always accurate either. Over half the Cummins owners I know never tow. And Ford sells more diesels then dodge and Chevy combined
Thank you hunter!!! Plus what about cummins crappy transmissions??? Yeah all dodge products are known for transmission problems!!! I like cummins don't get me wrong, I had a gas dodge and I know for a fact that If I ever get another dodge the only way I'll get one is if it has a cummins, I dont know about y'all, but the op was talking about comparing 6.7 ford vs 6.7 dodge, and somehow the subject got changed to the 6.0 being a complete disaster!!! how did that happen? Lol
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Thank you hunter!!! Plus what about cummins crappy transmissions??? Yeah all dodge products are known for transmission problems!!! I like cummins don't get me wrong, I had a gas dodge and I know for a fact that If I ever get another dodge the only way I'll get one is if it has a cummins, I dont know about y'all, but the op was talking about comparing 6.7 ford vs 6.7 dodge, and somehow the subject got changed to the 6.0 being a complete disaster!!! how did that happen? Lol
True the topic curved unfortunately. And as for the 6.7 my dad has one and this is the first one that right out of the box has been great on fuel and tows like a tank. Great truck with An unbelievable interior and rides great. However the only way your gonna know what works for you is to get your azz out there and test drive the hell out of them. To the OP it's your ride to choose. Never let anyone talk you into something lol sit down and figure out what makes most sense for you.
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True the topic curved unfortunately. And as for the 6.7 my dad has one and this is the first one that right out of the box has been great on fuel and tows like a tank. Great truck with An unbelievable interior and rides great. However the only way your gonna know what works for you is to get your azz out there and test drive the hell out of them. To the OP it's your ride to choose. Never let anyone talk you into something lol sit down and figure out what makes most sense for you.
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I believe the Aisin/auto has been holding up pretty well. One friend of mine has the aisin and works the snot out of it hauling cattle on a daily basis. Only issue he has really had with his '08 has been emission issues throwing it into limp mode a couple times. Another 10K or so at that thing is getting gutted. The better way in my opinion to solve the dodge tranny problems is to pick one with an NV5600 or G56.
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They have these things called warranties. Crazy little things. Lol. So I paid 1500 for and additional 100,000 mile warranty. So my motor was covered til 200,000 miles. And you can look it up. What a lot of people don't tell you is ford knew Navistar was having problems so they offered everyone with a Powerstroke A chance to buy this huge warranty that covered the entire motor and not just the 6.0. The 7.3 and the 6.4 had it offered as well. And it also came with a zero deductible. The only thing I had to pay for on the motor was the aftermarket head stud bolts that obviously ford didn't have 500$ then 399$ for the EGR kit. So a whopping 900$ I had to put into that motor out of pocket. Now I also had custom tunes and suspension Add ons as well as stacks and custom wheels and tires so that can add up in a different category under self inflicted.
So if you paid 1500 for an extended warranty plus 900 for parts as well as labor to have the parts intalled please tell me how you arrive at a total of 900? Also, I was un-aware that you personally had to drive a vehicle to be knowledgeable about it. Last I checked joining forums and doing research was the best way to actually learn something about a truck or cars in genral, not physically driving it.
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Making assumptions on one motor isn't always accurate either. Over half the Cummins owners I know never tow. And Ford sells more diesels then dodge and Chevy combined
I don't know where you get that fact, I can't find any evidence to support that ford sells more diesels than dodge and chevy combined. Do you have any actual evidence supporting that fact?
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So if you paid 1500 for an extended warranty plus 900 for parts as well as labor to have the parts intalled please tell me how you arrive at a total of 900? Also, I was un-aware that you personally had to drive a vehicle to be knowledgeable about it. Last I checked joining forums and doing research was the best way to actually learn something about a truck or cars in genral, not physically driving it.
First off I never said you needed to personally drive the truck to be oh so knowledgable about it such as yourself. I simply asked and really figured by the way you were talking that you have or had one. The next person made the comment that apparently made that assumption.

Second, since they were already replacing my head gaskets UNDER WARRANTY the labor was covered. So I provided my mechanic parts and he installed them instead of the stock ones.
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I don't know where you get that fact, I can't find any evidence to support that ford sells more diesels than dodge and chevy combined. Do you have any actual evidence supporting that fact?
Ford does sell a lot of sd trucks that's what makes their 1-4 year resell value so ****ty compared to ram and gm.

But the gm figures state that they sell the most heavy duty pickups in the USA it is spread between two lines so on paper ford out sells gmc and Chevy but not gmc and Chevy combined.

But no where have I ever seen or read that ford sells more trucks than Chevy and ram combined.

So I'm with you on this one.
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"where did you hear that?". "Internet". " aahh, then it must be true"

Am general and gm have a good bit more produced of the 6.2l and 6.5l around the world in military use and still in production for that purpose.

If you include the 6.6 that is used in every Isuzu hd and md truck outside of the united states. I am certain It far surpasses 2 million.

So it's truly a matter of perspective when you don't limit it to pickups on American roads.
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2 million is just the 7.3
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International may have produceed 2 million 7.3's but I would imagine that cummins produced at least that if not more 5.9's. It's hard to compare them though because both had industrial uses other than comsumer trucks. 2 million is alot of engines to produce but it still doesn't support the statement that Ford outsells GM and Dodge in diesels because the last 7.3 was made 10 years ago.
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The article said that for 2005 they sold less than the competiotn combined. As for Ford selling more diesels on an annual basis than Chevy and Dodge combined I don't know how they can make that claim when they have just admitted to not selling as many as the competion combined in 2005.
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Super Duty continues to be the diesel leader. Ford Motor Company sold nearly as many diesel Super Duty's in 2005 (242,545) as the combined total of diesel trucks sold by the competition (296,682). They are on track to do the same for 2006.

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Super Duty continues to be the diesel leader. Ford Motor Company sold nearly as many diesel Super Duty's in 2005 (242,545) as the combined total of diesel trucks sold by the competition (296,682). They are on track to do the same for 2006.

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That's my point. You just said it. In 2005 they DID NOT sell as many as the other two combined. You said "ford sells more diesels than dodge and chevy combined" they don't.
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Making assumptions on one motor isn't always accurate either. Over half the Cummins owners I know never tow. And Ford sells more diesels then dodge and Chevy combined
And here it is in case you forgot you said it
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Close enough. Note how close the numbers are...
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Close enough. Note how close the numbers are...
I think you should note that the number ford sold is lower than the number dodge and chevy did. I don't care if 300,000 people bought a ford diesel in 2005, it still doesn't have an effect on the quality of the product
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The article is at least credible. Not a Internet blogger posting non-sence about a deceased block that ulsd has buried long ago. But I do miss the 7.3. It was the last bullet proof ford diesel. Rip.

In 2006 gm introduced the lbz. It boasted more power than the competition and less maintenance costs backed by a 6spd auto. And I believe this was the start of the pickup diesel race. This was also a year that ram increased diesel availability bc of the demand. and I believe ford has been playing catchup untill the introduction of another ford built block with 6.7 and the 6 spd auto in 2011. Ram has and probably always will stand tall on the cummins. But their chassis lack the heavy duty appeal that ford and gm has. I mean their crew can dually boasts 2500# of payload. Come on! ford and gm has over 4k on a single rear wheel.

And the article is very selective in not including gmc. As gmc has a more extensive truck line than Chevy. So by playing with the wording it is secretly misleading.
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