Anyone else Not sure if they should take the discount for a 16 or wait for the 17's?
09-22-2016, 03:15 PM
#11
I was in the same boat and decided the 2016 Platinum was a better truck for me. I don't like the fit and finish of the 2017s. Ford spent two decades perfecting this truck.
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09-26-2016, 03:58 PM
#12
I would too. I didn't buy a 2017 because the price difference was a **** ton greater than $1,500.
10-24-2016, 07:56 PM
#13
I drove two 2017s today. Both were fantastic trucks, but man were they expensive. To get the same amenities that I have in my 2015 f150 they charge 18k more! What?!
I may go look at some 2016s. I guess the biggest drawback is lower payload and dated styling.
I may go look at some 2016s. I guess the biggest drawback is lower payload and dated styling.
10-25-2016, 07:40 AM
#14
The truck has 5700 pounds of payload, more than enough to pull any sane GN LQ horse trailer. We are here at the All American QH Congress now and have been looking at trailers. The big 17 and 18 foot super slide 4 horse trailers have a GVWR around 20K and Pin Weight of 4 to 5K, so this truck is ideally suited to pull them. Not sure how much more payload you need.
The cloth seats and rubber floor was a must for me as this truck is a work truck. With the power group pkg, its got power windows and doors, power heated mirrors, tilt and telescope wheel, cruise and air. The dealer added bluetooth and sirus, linex liner and a BW GN hitch all included in the 12K off sticker. The truck has the forged aluminum polished wheels and BFG radial all terrain tires.
I drove several 16s and 17s and could not see the value in the 17s. Plus the 16s power curve is flatter, the 17 has higher peak numbers but does not seem to hold the torque and HP under peak as well as the 16s do. Again I will be pulling almost every weekend around 10 to 20k depending on which GN I am hooked onto and those details matter to me. The ride quality on the 17 was slightly better but not much and that could be tires as much as anything. The 17s had michelin road tires not all terrain type. The 16 actually seemed a bit quieter inside to me, not sure why.
One last thing to consider. The 17s have higher bed walls and floor height than 16s. This can be bad for towing GN and 5vers. Higher walls mean less room under the nose. Higher bed floor can cause the nose high issues which causes excessive rear axle load on the trailer. The only fix is to lower the front on the trailer which makes you even closer to the higher bed walls. Up to now Ford had an advantage over GM and Dodge due to shorter bed walls but not on the 17s. Little things like this matter so look hard at your trailer before buying a 17.
Last edited by 5.0GN tow; 10-25-2016 at 07:43 AM.
10-25-2016, 09:41 AM
#15
I just bought a 2016 F350 SD 4x4 6.7 DRW XL well optioned up and it was 12K off sticker.
The truck has 5700 pounds of payload, more than enough to pull any sane GN LQ horse trailer. We are here at the All American QH Congress now and have been looking at trailers. The big 17 and 18 foot super slide 4 horse trailers have a GVWR around 20K and Pin Weight of 4 to 5K, so this truck is ideally suited to pull them. Not sure how much more payload you need.
The cloth seats and rubber floor was a must for me as this truck is a work truck. With the power group pkg, its got power windows and doors, power heated mirrors, tilt and telescope wheel, cruise and air. The dealer added bluetooth and sirus, linex liner and a BW GN hitch all included in the 12K off sticker. The truck has the forged aluminum polished wheels and BFG radial all terrain tires.
I drove several 16s and 17s and could not see the value in the 17s. Plus the 16s power curve is flatter, the 17 has higher peak numbers but does not seem to hold the torque and HP under peak as well as the 16s do. Again I will be pulling almost every weekend around 10 to 20k depending on which GN I am hooked onto and those details matter to me. The ride quality on the 17 was slightly better but not much and that could be tires as much as anything. The 17s had michelin road tires not all terrain type. The 16 actually seemed a bit quieter inside to me, not sure why.
One last thing to consider. The 17s have higher bed walls and floor height than 16s. This can be bad for towing GN and 5vers. Higher walls mean less room under the nose. Higher bed floor can cause the nose high issues which causes excessive rear axle load on the trailer. The only fix is to lower the front on the trailer which makes you even closer to the higher bed walls. Up to now Ford had an advantage over GM and Dodge due to shorter bed walls but not on the 17s. Little things like this matter so look hard at your trailer before buying a 17.
The truck has 5700 pounds of payload, more than enough to pull any sane GN LQ horse trailer. We are here at the All American QH Congress now and have been looking at trailers. The big 17 and 18 foot super slide 4 horse trailers have a GVWR around 20K and Pin Weight of 4 to 5K, so this truck is ideally suited to pull them. Not sure how much more payload you need.
The cloth seats and rubber floor was a must for me as this truck is a work truck. With the power group pkg, its got power windows and doors, power heated mirrors, tilt and telescope wheel, cruise and air. The dealer added bluetooth and sirus, linex liner and a BW GN hitch all included in the 12K off sticker. The truck has the forged aluminum polished wheels and BFG radial all terrain tires.
I drove several 16s and 17s and could not see the value in the 17s. Plus the 16s power curve is flatter, the 17 has higher peak numbers but does not seem to hold the torque and HP under peak as well as the 16s do. Again I will be pulling almost every weekend around 10 to 20k depending on which GN I am hooked onto and those details matter to me. The ride quality on the 17 was slightly better but not much and that could be tires as much as anything. The 17s had michelin road tires not all terrain type. The 16 actually seemed a bit quieter inside to me, not sure why.
One last thing to consider. The 17s have higher bed walls and floor height than 16s. This can be bad for towing GN and 5vers. Higher walls mean less room under the nose. Higher bed floor can cause the nose high issues which causes excessive rear axle load on the trailer. The only fix is to lower the front on the trailer which makes you even closer to the higher bed walls. Up to now Ford had an advantage over GM and Dodge due to shorter bed walls but not on the 17s. Little things like this matter so look hard at your trailer before buying a 17.
10-26-2016, 07:23 AM
#16
Thanks for the insight. The point about the high bed walls is something I had not considered. I am not a serious weekly hauler like you. This would be my daily driver and tow vehicle for camping. Right now our trailer is 6000 lbs but I can see that moving towards a heavier fifth wheel down the road. But your insights are very helpful because of your experience.
The trainer has blown two rear trailer tires this year. The only way to fix the problem and still have room under the nose is to put a lift kit on the axles of the trailer. If he lowers the hitch to put the nose down any further he hits the bed on the trailer nose at RR crossings and curb cuts. With his trailer at over 20K, the rear tires cant take all the extra load from the nose high situation, and its also very hard on the axle and bearings. Some trainers have bent axles from this.
10-26-2016, 09:23 AM
#17
No problem glad to help. A trainer we travel with a lot has had the bed height issue with his Ram, so I have seen it first hand on Ram. Another guy at the barn has a Chevy with similar although not quite as bad situation, as his trailer is not as heavy.
The trainer has blown two rear trailer tires this year. The only way to fix the problem and still have room under the nose is to put a lift kit on the axles of the trailer. If he lowers the hitch to put the nose down any further he hits the bed on the trailer nose at RR crossings and curb cuts. With his trailer at over 20K, the rear tires cant take all the extra load from the nose high situation, and its also very hard on the axle and bearings. Some trainers have bent axles from this.
The trainer has blown two rear trailer tires this year. The only way to fix the problem and still have room under the nose is to put a lift kit on the axles of the trailer. If he lowers the hitch to put the nose down any further he hits the bed on the trailer nose at RR crossings and curb cuts. With his trailer at over 20K, the rear tires cant take all the extra load from the nose high situation, and its also very hard on the axle and bearings. Some trainers have bent axles from this.