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Old 08-04-2013, 01:38 PM   #147531
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:39 PM   #147532
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Ok so I need some advice.

I joined this fire department back in January. It's a combination career/volunteer, countywide. Through the initial paperwork it took until March for my papers to clear so I was approved to be a volunteer.
At the time I was approved, I just went to meetings and had no idea how the department worked. No clue when I would get training and gear to run calls. I tried not to ask, as I just joined and didn't want to seem so trigger happy. Apparently this year is the year they've decided to revamp their training style, and go from traditional spur of the moment little fire trainings (then you're all ready to go), to a new system of once-a-year module-style classes. They held the first two early this summer, so that new people could at least get to run medical calls. Then 1 through 4 this winter time after another batch of new volunteers come through.

With all that being said, I am halfway through my classes, and am qualified to run medical calls. I had my first call just the other day. I was 20 seconds away, so I figured I should probably go. I show up, and I'm the only one there besides the patient/patients two family members.
About 10 minutes go by of me, totally winging it because I blanked on what to do. No one else shows up. Every thing was fine with the patient, so I was only concerned with myself being so flustered. I had no supervisory help. Nothing. Eventually an ambulance shows up to save my ***, and they concluded pretty much what I had, about the patient. Loaded her into the ambulance to cruise over to the hospital for an x-ray.
At this point, I leave. Basically afraid to run medicals for fear of that happening again, in a worse situation. I figure, hey, maybe I should do some ride-alongs.
I check with the county training officer, and he tells me I cannot do ride alongs until I am a full responder. So basically I can't do anything at all until like, next March after the final classes.


This kind of thing happens with this department, all the time. I have to blaze my own trail with where to go, who to ask, and what I can and cannot do. Most of the time, it's fine but as I am going this alone (no local family members or friends involved) its up to me to ask the questions. This is where I need help.

It seems like every other week I have to call or email someone, and ask a question pertaining to what I can and cannot do, while I wait for full responder status. Not even in an annoying way, I just don't want to get to that part of the year and find out I missed something that could have been taken care of earlier. I am beginning to feel as though I am pestering my superiors. I just have questions and no one to ask!

I'm a very persistant person. I can be patient but I don't like backing down completely. I'm getting this feeler that I'm kind of burning some professional bridges around here. I suppose I should just stop doing anything at all until this winter. Then they call me and ask why I haven't gotten my paperwork yet or something, and I have to admit fault even though I've spent months trying to figure out where in the county my paperwork is.
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Ok so I need some advice.

I joined this fire department back in January. It's a combination career/volunteer, countywide. Through the initial paperwork it took until March for my papers to clear so I was approved to be a volunteer.
At the time I was approved, I just went to meetings and had no idea how the department worked. No clue when I would get training and gear to run calls. I tried not to ask, as I just joined and didn't want to seem so trigger happy. Apparently this year is the year they've decided to revamp their training style, and go from traditional spur of the moment little fire trainings (then you're all ready to go), to a new system of once-a-year module-style classes. They held the first two early this summer, so that new people could at least get to run medical calls. Then 1 through 4 this winter time after another batch of new volunteers come through.

With all that being said, I am halfway through my classes, and am qualified to run medical calls. I had my first call just the other day. I was 20 seconds away, so I figured I should probably go. I show up, and I'm the only one there besides the patient/patients two family members.
About 10 minutes go by of me, totally winging it because I blanked on what to do. No one else shows up. Every thing was fine with the patient, so I was only concerned with myself being so flustered. I had no supervisory help. Nothing. Eventually an ambulance shows up to save my ***, and they concluded pretty much what I had, about the patient. Loaded her into the ambulance to cruise over to the hospital for an x-ray.
At this point, I leave. Basically afraid to run medicals for fear of that happening again, in a worse situation. I figure, hey, maybe I should do some ride-alongs.
I check with the county training officer, and he tells me I cannot do ride alongs until I am a full responder. So basically I can't do anything at all until like, next March after the final classes.

This kind of thing happens with this department, all the time. I have to blaze my own trail with where to go, who to ask, and what I can and cannot do. Most of the time, it's fine but as I am going this alone (no local family members or friends involved) its up to me to ask the questions. This is where I need help.

It seems like every other week I have to call or email someone, and ask a question pertaining to what I can and cannot do, while I wait for full responder status. Not even in an annoying way, I just don't want to get to that part of the year and find out I missed something that could have been taken care of earlier. I am beginning to feel as though I am pestering my superiors. I just have questions and no one to ask!

I'm a very persistant person. I can be patient but I don't like backing down completely. I'm getting this feeler that I'm kind of burning some professional bridges around here. I suppose I should just stop doing anything at all until this winter. Then they call me and ask why I haven't gotten my paperwork yet or something, and I have to admit fault even though I've spent months trying to figure out where in the county my paperwork is.
There must be an official handbook from the regulatory body that you can request. Your supervisor should be able to provide one or steer you in the right direction. Also, due to the liability and legalities involves in such work, I don't think there are any dumb questions. You should ask for any literature pertaining to your rights, responsibilities and authority. I am kinda dumbfounded that this has not already been offered to you
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:22 PM   #147537
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There must be an official handbook from the regulatory body that you can request. Your supervisor should be able to provide one or steer you in the right direction. Also, due to the liability and legalities involves in such work, I don't think there are any dumb questions. You should ask for any literature pertaining to your rights, responsibilities and authority. I am kinda dumbfounded that this has not already been offered to you

Good point. We do have the SOP (Standard Operating Procedures) binder. Its about 2 inches thick, and I've read through it multiple times. It itself has answered many of my questions, pertaining mostly to what I can and cannot do. Although, it is written mostly geared towards full responders so it does not make mention of what qualifications are necessary for certain operations.
It it also geared towards busier companies. My company is probably the slowest in the county, with only the water tender running pretty regularly and about 25 calls (almost all medical) actually within our coverage area. The SOP manual makes mention that all volunteers need to make at least 5 calls a month or face repremandation. With that being said, I understand that there are minor sections subject to leeway due to a slower station.
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I hate to jump to conclusions after having only been involved for a short period of time, but just as it seems now, this isn't the best department for someone as green as I. Most of the current volunteers are retired firefighters, or have been introduced into this department with some sort of prior experience. Maybe for years to come as they work out the kinks in the training. So I suppose I just joined at the wrong time.
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Well I was up at 9200 elevation and I'm from Phoenix and it's like 12-1500 elevation there. Lol
That's a big difference lol. Here it's around 6000 I believe locally. But if I drive out an hour or so north I can get to some pretty steep/long climbs.
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Ok so after talking to another guy who's just as far along in the process as I, I understand that I am not alone in the situation. Which, is actually quite relieving.
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