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Old 05-29-2014, 11:04 AM   #6671
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Waves of immigrant minors present crisis for Obama, Congress
Tens of thousands of children unaccompanied by parents or relatives are flooding across the southern U.S. border illegally, forcing the Obama administration and Congress to grapple with both a humanitarian crisis and a budget dilemma.

An estimated 60,000 such children will pour into the United States this year, according to the administration, up from about 6,000 in 2011. Now, Washington is trying to figure out how to pay for their food, housing and transportation once they are taken into custody.

The flow is expected to grow. The number of unaccompanied, undocumented immigrants who are under 18 will likely double in 2015 to nearly 130,000 and cost U.S. taxpayers $2 billion, up from $868 million this year, according to administration estimates.

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Wait, I though this administration was continuing to strengthen border security...

How can this be happening?
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:23 PM   #6673
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Wait, I though this administration was continuing to strengthen border security... How can this be happening?
They ARE strengthening it. It's just that they're making it safer for border jumpers instead of for our border agents.
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Map a trace 1 mile south of the current US-Mexican border.

Clear it. Everything. Make it a bloody desert.

Put up a 12 foot high fence with triple strand on top.

Any human in that 1 mile strip who isn't US military gets shot.

No worries about Posse Comitatus because the patrol area is in Mexico.

(I'm well aware that this would eliminate large parts of Juarez and several other urban Mexican garden spots)
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Map a trace 1 mile south of the current US-Mexican border. Clear it. Everything. Make it a bloody desert. Put up a 12 foot high fence with triple strand on top. Any human in that 1 mile strip who isn't US military gets shot. No worries about Posse Comitatus because the patrol area is in Mexico. (I'm well aware that this would eliminate large parts of Juarez and several other urban Mexican garden spots)
Web-operated machine gun turrets. $1/hr to watch the border via camera mounted on the turret. Bonuses for eradicating a border hopper. The fence pays for itself extremely fast.
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Map a trace 1 mile south of the current US-Mexican border.

Clear it. Everything. Make it a bloody desert.

Put up a 12 foot high fence with triple strand on top.

Any human in that 1 mile strip who isn't US military gets shot.

No worries about Posse Comitatus because the patrol area is in Mexico.

(I'm well aware that this would eliminate large parts of Juarez and several other urban Mexican garden spots)
The DDR did it pretty effectively with only an 100m wide strip, although the internal controls extended kilometers away from the border. Need some watch towers, a few dogs, some anti-personnel mines, couple of rows of razor mesh fencing. Is that where we're really heading?
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Scores of Undocumented Migrants Flown Out From Texas & Dropped Off at Arizona Bus Stations
Scores of undocumented immigrants from Central America have been released at Greyhound Lines Inc. bus stations in Tucson and Phoenix over the past several days after they were flown to Arizona from south Texas, officials acknowledged.

Andy Adame, a spokesman for the Border Patrol in Tucson, confirmed that over the weekend federal officials flew about 400 migrants apprehended in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas to Tucson to be processed. He said the migrants were flown to Arizona because the Border Patrol does not have enough manpower to handle a surge in illegal immigrants in south Texas.

Among the children were infants 6 months old. "Some of the kids were crying," Whitmore said. "Some were infants that weren't fully clothed. They didn't have diapers. They didn't have formula." In response to criticism, the agency started giving migrants sack lunches and allowing them calls to make travel arrangements.

ICE officials said the migrants being released are families apprehended by the Border Patrol trying to enter the U.S. illegally. After screening, they are being released under supervision and then required to report to a local ICE office near their destination within 15 days. But Mehlman at FAIR said that once migrants are released, they often disappear and ICE doesn't go looking for them unless they have criminal records.

"This is a huge concern," said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group that advocates for more immigration and border enforcement."This is exactly the incentive for people to cross the border illegally," he said.

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The DDR did it pretty effectively with only an 100m wide strip, although the internal controls extended kilometers away from the border. Need some watch towers, a few dogs, some anti-personnel mines, couple of rows of razor mesh fencing. Is that where we're really heading?

The DDR was doing it to keep people in, not out. Mexico doesn't want to police their border, we'll take over the task for them.
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The DDR was doing it to keep people in, not out. Mexico doesn't want to police their border, we'll take over the task for them.
Yes, but you must admit it was a pretty effective containment system. I do agree we'd have to operate it.
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Some really good ideas - what about combining them but turn down the 'murder'.

200m of open field that terminates in the aforementioned security wall topped with Dannert.

Buy time via web ($1 per min), using high powered - long range - automatic paintball guns.

Paintballs can be filled with some renewable source (old blueberries & pomegranate juice) that stains the skin. Light their *** up then the ICE folks can spot the illegals by the welts and berry stains. The revenue from net sales would easily pay for the Border Patrol folks and gear maintenance.
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