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Old 10-05-2012, 03:05 PM   #911
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It's been 24 hours already?! Geez.
Actually more like 36 !

But don't hold back! Let me know how you really feel ?



And the answer is - Republican kittens have their eyes open !
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But I would have to guess that she has a S.S number ? So the government knows who she is ! So what is your point ?
I have personally met 5 guys when i was working for a particular company that were here illegally (from Mexico) and they joked about how easy it was for them to vote. Thats just 1 person in 1 place, i don't talk about it with the other guys were i work now (very p.c. Attitude by management, can't hurt anybodys "feelings"). I know many of the contractors that come through on turn around are illegal though, they are usually happy to tell you and many are proud of it so who knows the real voting total. They also talk about how to get free tax money and apparently there are places illegals can go where "community activists" and "immigration consultants" will help show them how to get social services, but that another topic all together
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I have personally met 5 guys when i was working for a particular company that were here illegally (from Mexico) and they joked about how easy it was for them to vote. Thats just 1 person in 1 place, i don't talk about it with the other guys were i work now (very p.c. Attitude by management, can't hurt anybodys "feelings"). I know many of the contractors that come through on turn around are illegal though, they are usually happy to tell you and many are proud of it so who knows the real voting total. They also talk about how to get free tax money and apparently there are places illegals can go where "community activists" and "immigration consultants" will help show them how to get social services, but that another topic all together
All the more reason to have voter ID !
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Unemployment numbers released today are a crock of BS. The number of jobs gained was the same as when it would normally stay flat. Plus the amount of people that dropped out of the workforce is immense. I've never believed unemployment numbers because of the ability to tweak them but this one is very ironic that it comes out a month before the election at 1 point lower than when he took office.

Same goes for the stock market, it has no direct correlation to how the economy is as it's really based on the companies themselves. Companies have loads of cash on their balance sheets waiting for some certainty in the economy which isn't there.
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You might consider the remote possibility that devout Democrats can be objective too and are not led by the pied piper. Obama did a terrible job and Romney did a great job and I've heard no one say different!

Winning a debate doesn't mean people will change their votes! Romney beat the pants off Obama, but I don't care who is the best debater. I care who represents my values. If Obama comes back strong and clearly wins the next debate how many on this forum will change their vote? The answer is less than zero!

Uncommitted voters scare me! I suspect most of them have been paying no attention and don't pay attention until the end like I watch the baseball world series. I barely know whose playing until the hipe starts for the world series. That's frightening when it comes to electing the president. If the debate was the first time I had listened to Romney I wouldn't know how much he has changed basic positions and might think he had come consistant values. I wouldn't know that he even changed some positions during the debate that his own staff didn't know about such as claiming that his healthcare program will accept pre-existing conditions.... which it will not! His staff did damage control and corrected that flat out lie the next day hoping to stave off criticism!

The uncommitted voter focus groups I saw were not impressive. One Pro Romney man came out and said he's always leaned toward Romney, but wanted more information! That's not an uncomitted voter to me! A young girl said she was now pro Obama because she felt he was talking to her.... which made her seem a little too easily impressed by attention! Scarey!

I think at this point it's more about uncommitted voters and voter turnout! That's why we have another big Voter Suppression push to reduce the numbers of poor and older Democratic voters. Pennsylvania has been blocked on their requirement of Picture I.D., but MSNBC had to pressure the state to remove the "Just Show Your I.D." Requirement from their state website that might convince people that they would still be turned away at the polls! Nice! MSNBC is also introducing people that are proven legal voters but don't have picture I.D. with explanations why. My wife's aunt no longer drives and has never had a birth certificate as she was born without a doctor on the farm. So she would have to go through a lot of hoops before she could vote if Kansas had such a law! At 81, that's not much fun and just plain unamerican to do that to her since there is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem anywhere! Voters in heavily Democratic areas are getting hit with shortened voting hours that make it harder for poor working people to vote! Sunday voting has been eliminated in urban areas where Black Christian Churches traditionally drove their non driving, older folks to the polls after church. It's called winning at any cost!
I honestly think regardless of who is elected we are doomed. And I just have one question to ask. Name one politician in the history of the United States of America that has not lied, or made you believe they were going to make changes to certain things and never accomplish anything? Don't worry, I'll wait ...
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I honestly think regardless of who is elected we are doomed. And I just have one question to ask. Name one politician in the history of the United States of America that has not lied, or made you believe they were going to make changes to certain things and never accomplish anything? Don't worry, I'll wait ...
This! Lol

And I love some Katt Williams ("don't worry, I'll wait")
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I honestly think regardless of who is elected we are doomed. And I just have one question to ask. Name one politician in the history of the United States of America that has not lied, or made you believe they were going to make changes to certain things and never accomplish anything? Don't worry, I'll wait ...
I could name a list of such Presidents but then we would have to listen the gang around here tell us how all those accomplishments ruined our country made it a socialistic nightmare and took away our LIBERTY, LIBERTY, LIBERTY!

You can never judge a president except by looking back through history because there are always those fighting change, dragging their feet and predicting the end of our civilization. A lot of them post on this thread! LOL! If Obama is re-elected and the disloyal opposition begins to press him to ever tighten the belt of Obamacare it may go down in history like what FDR did in the 30's! Then again he may lose the election and we will be drug back closer to the 1920's in labor relations and security for the worker. Only time will tell! Who would ever believe 400 families would own so much of our country of equality!

Our system of democracy protects to some degree from popular presidents becoming dictators, but in doing so makes getting anything done slow and ugly! I doubt the Founding Fathers would like the bribes that are necessary to take called campaign contributions to get elected. If Americans could learn from those petty other countries of the world, which evidently we cannot because we are so superior we might limit campaigns to just 90 days and have the government fund them making it illegal for any politician to take one dime without going to prison. Then our elected officials might be able to run the country without constantly begging for bribes to survive. Of course that won't happen as long as Donald Trump has more Free Speech than you have of course being measured by how big a bribe he can offer an elected official!
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This! Lol

And I love some Katt Williams ("don't worry, I'll wait")
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The 47% argument is absurd. It was simply a poor way to communicate his point - he's human. However, its ALL the Dems have...

I have voted both Dem and Rep. I look at the character, facts, leadership qualities and formulate the best answer. Is not this what we all do? I think not.

What I cant get past are these issues:

1. They keep calling Romney a liar after the debate. The man is a Mormon Bishop and has a VERY good track record of being a faithful person of excellent integrity. Obama on the other hand spent his years being around, and influenced by, people like Jeremiah Alvesta Wright.

2. People keep questioning Romney's net worth and tax records. (1) There is ZERO evidence he's broken the law. (2) The "have nots" hate the "haves". Its simply a jealousy problem American's have. Why are we attacking and penalizing people for wanting to make money and be successful? We should be congratulating them.. Case and point: Jon Stewart slams Romney for being rich a "1 percenter" when Jon Stewart and his wife make $80K/month - also a 1%er... Hypocracy?

3. Romney's background and resume BLOWS away Obama's. Romney is a CLEAR leader with documented and demonstrated success both in business AND in government.

4. Romney hides nothing. His tax issue was personal. The reason he did not want to show people his taxes? For fear of losing votes by the angry and jealous HAVE NOTS! Its that simple and a bit of a paradox. To help the have nots, he needs to be elected. In order to be elected he need not lose their votes. To not lose their votes he must not feed that jealousy fire of the "have nots." So, anyone in the same position would do the same. Funny thing, I believe Romney will do more for the "have nots" that help themselves than Obama has and will. And THEY are trying to vote for the wrong person.... LOL

5. Integrity? Well, my understanding is Romney donated 19% ($3M) of his income to charity in 2011. Obama = 1% and Biden = $300 (total) or like .1%. Who's helping the needy now biotches?

6. If I were hiring someone I would be critical of (1) Personal qualifications for the job and (2) their background/experience. Both have experience. Romney one of CLEAR success and Obama of clear FAILURES. I dont know about you, but I dont like to "wait and pass a bill to see what's in it!" - thanks Pelosi!

7. Romney has worked his entire life. With REAL jobs. He knows business and what makes them work. He knows economies and the issues they face at a state level - and has a track record of success. Obama - not so much... Has he had a real job - ever in the private sector?

8. Romney's background verifiable. Obama - sealed. What is Obama hiding exactly? There's your trust issues.

We NEED a leader PERIOD. What I saw the other night was LEADERSHIP. Dems can call it anything they want, but we saw the true leader and lack thereof... Oh wait, no its the climate or altitude right (FU Gore)...

Obama might be the nicest guy on Earth. But we dont need another Carter. We need a leader with a proven track record.

Off soap box - I feel so much better...

That's enough of this kind of talk mister ! You can not make this much sense, don't you know this is a Political forum ?

Nice write man !
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Yah, but that commie idiot must have given up his Liberty..... his Liberty.... just to allow some socialist elements into his society that give him a really great life with all those benefits! If he wants to have his education provided all the way through graduate school, healthcare without fear of being destroyed by illness, a safe decent retirement, a minimum liveable salary, worker involvement in corporation management and a six week paid vacation, etc., etc., that's his stupid choice! Myself, I'd rather have Liberty....Liberty....Liberty so maybe I can buy another house like the one I lost to the bank because my kid got sick and we could keep up with the medical bills!
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