All things Political!!! (BK2 Rules.) - Page 52 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans



View Poll Results: Who are you pulling for?
Obama 19 21.11%
Romney 61 67.78%
Not Voting. 10 11.11%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

All things Political!!! (BK2 Rules.)

Closed Thread
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-30-2012, 09:37 PM   #511
Meaner than Ymeski
5 Year Member
Thread Starter
 
bobkyle2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 23,039
Thanked 781 Times in 456 Posts
Default

Red1994 ... Do not post anymore pictures in this thread.
bobkyle2 is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:06 PM   #512
Resident Piñata
 
opinyawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,183
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cogsbme View Post
I don't think I am muddying the issue. Burning a Koran does not in itself incite violence. I
It most obviously did incite violence! Should it? Of course not, no argument... but it does! If I scream fire in a movie theatre people should not selfishly trample others either.... but it happens, and we hold the person who screamed fire responsible.

I'm not suggesting that no one can express an opinion about a religion, but when they commit an act designed to offend or attack anothers religion knowing that it may cause violence they must be held responsible!

If you approach a nice, young, married couple in a restaurant and express the opinion for all to hear, that the young woman is a skanky ***** do you have any reponsibility for the punch in the mouth you receive from her husband or are you just using your Free Speech to express an opinion! Silly example, not really! Burning the Koran or ridiculing Mohammed is a great offense to Muslims and some will turn to violence. If a jury decides that was your purpose you should not be allowed to hide behind Freedom of Speech and cause innocent people to die!

Last edited by opinyawn; 09-30-2012 at 10:09 PM.
opinyawn is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:16 PM   #513
Resident Piñata
 
opinyawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,183
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cogsbme View Post
Hugo Chavez sure knows how to work the media. And here I am reposting it. He's a disease you can't cure, he keeps coming back. Sounds like he may have a tougher go this time around. It will be intersting to see what happens down there.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-30-13-22-59
The Hugo Chavez type leaders of the world are brought on by mistreatment of the common man in a country, often by capitalism. When the common man is treated decently he doesn't spend any time listening to leaders in favor of changing the capitalistic system. Instead he goes swimming with his grandchildren waiting for the pizza to arrive like I just did! It's always been that way in Russia, Cuba, Vietnam, Latin America, etc.! Revolutions never get any support when the common man is decently treated! A good question is always, "Is the common man better off before or after the revolution?" Many in these countries would say, "The common man is better off after the revolution!" Cuba or Vietnam weren't so good for the common man under captialism! Capitalism does not require democracy, in fact it democracy often interferes with capitalism! I think that's what many representing corporations are complaining about now!

Stick around and you may see what I mean in this country if it's wealth keeps going to the top 2%!

Last edited by opinyawn; 09-30-2012 at 10:26 PM.
opinyawn is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:19 PM   #514
opinions are like *****...
5 Year Member
 
MR.FX4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,198
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by opinyawn View Post
It most obviously did incite violence! Should it? Of course not, no argument... but it does! If I scream fire in a movie theatre people should not selfishly trample others either.... but it happens, and we hold the person who screamed fire responsible.

I'm not suggesting that no one can express an opinion about a religion, but when they commit an act designed to offend or attack anothers religion knowing that it may cause violence they must be held responsible!

If you approach a nice, young, married couple in a restaurant and express the opinion for all to hear, that the young woman is a skanky ***** do you have any reponsibility for the punch in the mouth you receive from her husband or are you just using your Free Speech to express an opinion! Silly example, not really! Burning the Koran or ridiculing Mohammed is a great offense to Muslims and some will turn to violence. If a jury decides that was your purpose you should not be allowed to hide behind Freedom of Speech and cause innocent people to die!
I figured it wouldn’t be long before someone pulled the "fire in a theatre" excuse.
It is not an accurate comparison at all. A fire in a theater is a legitimate reason for someone to fear for their life and doing nothing in a fire is not reasonable.

When a bunch of backwards, tribal, murderous people CHOOSE to start a riot and kill because they are "offended" it is not because a joke about a stupid prophet incited it. There is no reasonable excuse for why they had to react that way, it was a conscious CHOICE. That is the difference in the two scenarios.

If I got "offended" by your constant attacks on conservatives and republicans and decided I needed to go murder a few liberals would it would it be justified to throw you in jail because of it?
MR.FX4 is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:31 PM   #515
Just Another Member
5 Year Member
 
Theocoog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New England
Posts: 1,439
Thanked 117 Times in 85 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by opinyawn

It most obviously did incite violence!
Whether or not these actions incited violence, the violence you're all talking about is occurring in foreign countries, so your references to U.S. statutes is meaningless. Until they start rioting here, that is.
Theocoog is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:38 PM   #516
Andrew
5 Year Member
 
red1994ford's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,361
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobkyle2 View Post
Red1994 ... Do not post anymore pictures in this thread.
red1994ford is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:51 PM   #517
opinions are like *****...
5 Year Member
 
MR.FX4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,198
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by red1994ford

Wtf did you post? Lol
MR.FX4 is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:53 PM   #518
Meaner than ymeski56
 
XtraLargeTall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Fort Morgan, Colorado
Posts: 21,808
Thanked 447 Times in 326 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MR.FX4

Wtf did you post? Lol
Was a picture of a gas station price board with prices from January 19, 2009 and said below something to the effect of it being before Obama took office
XtraLargeTall is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:59 PM   #519
opinions are like *****...
5 Year Member
 
MR.FX4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,198
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XtraLargeTall

Was a picture of a gas station price board with prices from January 19, 2009 and said below something to the effect of it being before Obama took office
Oh ya i saw that, what's wrong with that?
MR.FX4 is offline  
Old 09-30-2012, 11:08 PM   #520
Meaner than ymeski56
 
XtraLargeTall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Fort Morgan, Colorado
Posts: 21,808
Thanked 447 Times in 326 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MR.FX4

Oh ya i saw that, what's wrong with that?
Ask Kyle...
XtraLargeTall is offline  
 
 
Closed Thread

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Svt lightning work replica Svtricky Members Builds 30 01-23-2016 09:20 PM
Things your grandfather would say! Martian Off-Topic 91 01-19-2016 12:33 PM
Fast R/C car/trucks. Anybody play with or own? Franchi Motorsports Off-Topic 19 09-15-2015 07:33 PM
Several small issues with 2015..and my expience thus far. treepoint5zero 2015 - Present Ford F150 1 09-10-2015 06:34 PM
Can anyone help me / what is this thing? Red-Ford 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 4 09-07-2015 01:51 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:55 AM.


Copyright © 2006 - 2016 F150Forum.com