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Old 09-29-2012, 10:24 PM   #451
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Do you think if Bush pissed and moaned about 9/11 like Obama blames Bush, that Bush would have gotten a second term ?
It happened on his watch, during his term, after security paperwork crossed his desk and Condie Rice's desk warning that Arabs were already in this country who planned an immenient attack and another warning concerning a possible attack on airliners! I posted the actual dates of those intelligence warnings not long ago! So, who was Bush going to blame? Pres. Willard Filmore?

In fairness to Bush, the whole country was asleep and was caught off guard!
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You think it is hateful out there now! I can't even imagine November 7th! Just picture December 7th 1941 and add more hate! I've got an RV trip planned so I won't even be tempted to open this thread after the election!

No matter who wins the level of obnoxious comments will set a new high!
I agree, obamas reelection will be as devastating for America as pearl harbor. If Romney does pull it out the hate from the left will be vile to say the least, just look at the lies already being spewed from the democrats
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Maybe you would like to get ALL the information on socialized health care before you decide that it is such a wonderful thing ?
The insurance company propaganda has been out for years.... who could miss it! You know "Death Panels and waiting 8 years for a Bandaid!" Those that can read just know it's baloney to protect profits! I've heard too many people from other countries tell their opinions about their healthcare programs tof all for the propaganda. I've been all over Europe and asked people I met there! Not pferfect, but a hell of a lot better than the mess we have for far less money!
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What do you guys think about the "cash for clunkers" crap??


I never could wrap my head around it.
In reality, you almost can never accurately tell the results of things like that! I know a few people that got gas guzzler/polluters off the road and bought a new car. Maybe that is a good thing! It only helped people towards the bottom. I didn't have a car that qualified.... but that's OK.... because it means I'm doing OK!

To some, if Obama had anything to do with it is has to be bad! End of story!

I think it's great Bush supported fighting AIDS around the world and Nixon decided to bring China into our world with Capitalism instead of fighting them! When you are right, your'e right! Unless you are Obama!
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It happened on his watch, during his term, after security paperwork crossed his desk and Condie Rice's desk warning that Arabs were already in this country who planned an immenient attack and another warning concerning a possible attack on airliners! I posted the actual dates of those intelligence warnings not long ago! So, who was Bush going to blame? Pres. Willard Filmore?

In fairness to Bush, the whole country was asleep and was caught off guard!
Clinton had Osama in his sights and let him go !
Clinton was on the watch during the first attack !
The point is, that you do not get is, Bush stood up and LED after the attack!
How things were handled after that are arguable !
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Clinton had Osama in his sights and let him go !
Clinton was on the watch during the first attack !
The point is, that you do not get is, Bush stood up and LED after the attack!
How things were handled after that are arguable !
Don't agree!
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The insurance company propaganda has been out for years.... who could miss it! You know "Death Panels and waiting 8 years for a Bandaid!" Those that can read just know it's baloney to protect profits! I've heard too many people from other countries tell their opinions about their healthcare programs tof all for the propaganda. I've been all over Europe and asked people I met there! Not pferfect, but a hell of a lot better than the mess we have for far less money!
Socialized Medicine is like giving everybody a free car, but gas would be very expensive or unobtainable !
It is OK for the run of the mill basic stuff, but if you need anything specialized . Good luck getting in ! You have no clue !
If Obama care is so great, why did they exempt themselves from it ? Why was it written with little to no outside input ? Why did they have to vote on it to see what was in it ? Have you ever seen a government run program that works efficiently ?
As it is now Medicare /Medicade pays 30 to 40 cents on the dollar ! Do you have a clue what the costs are associated with a medical degree ? Try negotiating that deal at the grocery store !
It did nothing to regulate the insurance company's ability to practice medicine with out a license ! But you are ok with all this ?
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Don't agree!
Then you don't know what you don't know !
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California sales tax and DMV fees are so high it could make out great by offering cash for clunkers. It would have to come out with positive revenues and a stimulus affect!
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I never could wrap my head around it.
Corporate welfare !
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