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Old 09-28-2012, 02:35 PM   #401
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Its a nice little attack piece from the Huffington post but there are plenty of false statements in their "study". For instance how can they predict that fewer people will get coverage if money is given to the states in the form of block grants? They also conveniently leave out the cost of the plans. Promises and government programs sound great but when it comes time to pay for it the answer is always "take it from that other guy!"(insert the Rich, the 1%, corporations, defense, medicare, etc.)
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Great post falcon! Good work
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Pres. Eisenhower was a great organizer, don't know that I'd call him a notable president, however.

Pres. Truman had far more impact than either JFK or Ike. He ordered the integration of the military, and was very forcible about it. (My dad remembers the order, it was basically integrate or I'm going to start firing generals until there's one who will)To some who don't understand how much of a real risk that was, and how much uproar that caused, remember, a great many of the senior officers in the military holding permanent rank were white southerners.

The buck really DID stop with Give 'em hell Harry.
Well said, and grounded in reality! What a nice approach! LBJ needs more respect in terms of what he did for integration as a Southerner!
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The Obama administration was attempting to calm Islamic protestors to protect the lives of Americans in Lybia and around the world with the statements made about the disgusting Youtube video. All the recounting of times of events, etc. simply does absolutely nothing to alter the fact that Romney saw an opportunity to make a self serving political attack the Obama administration in the middle of a crisis! Doing so has always been considered absolutely wrong because it can negatively affect the ability of our government to do its job! Those that breeched the walls of the compound were obviously not the average protestor in the crowd. They used the protest as an opportunity to strike at America.

This is not the first time Romney has taken the opportunity to make a self serving political attack. He has also attacked the Obama administration in the middle of a very delicate negotiation with China regarding the "Blind Dissonant". Clinton was trying to find a way to allow China to "save face" and release the man possibly saving his life. Romney's criticisms highlighted a delicate negotiation that Sec. Clinton was trying to keep at a low key. Eventually the face saving deal allowed for the "Blind Dissonant" to be released to the U.S. for medical treatment. Romney threatened that negotiation for his selfish political gains.

Romney's willingness to put other people's lives at risk for political gain is an indication to many that he does not have the ethics to lead this country. He also doesn't seem to exhibit common sense in his statements as even his Republican supporters have noted! That seems to be a dangerous flaw in a president.

On Romney’s international trip, trying to look Presidential, he made the statement, “Russia is our #1 political foe!” General Colin Powell who is not known to be a wild eyed Liberal commented on Romney’s remark by saying, “Come on Mitt.... think, that’s not so!”

You simply can't just talk Mitt Romney's actions away!
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It was a planned attack and has already been proven that the Obama administration lied about the YouTube video being the cause.

I'm sure all those savage muslims running around murdering their own daughters are very concerned with what some candidate in America says regarding the president. If it took them 6 months to "spontaneously" start a riot about the video i doubt their icamel ever showed Romneys attack on obamas terrorist sympathy
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Do you know how to tell when Obama is lying ? When you see his lips moving !
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The Obama administration was attempting to calm Islamic protestors to protect the lives of Americans in Lybia and around the world with the statements made about the disgusting Youtube video.
And how did that work out? Have you ever had to deal with any of these fine folks? Reason, logic and sanity are 3 of many words not in their vernacular. Anyone in their right mind would know we didn't make or endorse the video. As a matter of fact..............

The video was first uploaded to YouTube in July then dubbed into Arabic and uploaded the first part of September. September 9th the YouTube video was broadcast on Al-Nas TV. Protests against the film didn’t break out till September 11. Why did it take 2 days for a “spontaneous” protest to start up? Because they already had a date, that just gave them an excuses, but it is so important for this administration to try and appease them. Even to the point of agreeing to forgo the First Amendment to protect islam.

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So if I draw a cartoon about muhammad and people protest, wreak havoc or kill because of it I go to jail. This is the direction we should be going?


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All the recounting of times of events, etc. simply does absolutely nothing to alter the fact that Romney saw an opportunity to make a self serving political attack the Obama administration in the middle of a crisis! Doing so has always been considered absolutely wrong because it can negatively affect the ability of our government to do its job!
What it does (other than upsetting you) is shows the current administrations failure. Romney's statement was on the mark, his timing is the only thing that can be called into question. As for in the middle of a crisis, should someone wait till a crisis is over to say "hey, you are doing that wrong". The Democrats never have. As far as "negatively affect the ability of our government to do its job!" They failed by not protecting our people when they got intel that something was up well before the attack. I've said this before and I'll say it again, why were they there at a soft facility with minimal protection on the anniversary of 9/11 and with a credible threat of activity.

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Those that breeched the walls of the compound were obviously not the average protestor in the crowd. They used the protest as an opportunity to strike at America.
There were no protesters at the time of the attack at all.

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This is not the first time Romney has taken the opportunity to make a self serving political attack. He has also attacked the Obama administration in the middle of a very delicate negotiation with China regarding the "Blind Dissonant". Clinton was trying to find a way to allow China to "save face" and release the man possibly saving his life. Romney's criticisms highlighted a delicate negotiation that Sec. Clinton was trying to keep at a low key. Eventually the face saving deal allowed for the "Blind Dissonant" to be released to the U.S. for medical treatment. Romney threatened that negotiation for his selfish political gains.

Romney's willingness to put other people's lives at risk for political gain is an indication to many that he does not have the ethics to lead this country. He also doesn't seem to exhibit common sense in his statements as even his Republican supporters have noted! That seems to be a dangerous flaw in a president.

On Romney’s international trip, trying to look Presidential, he made the statement, “Russia is our #1 political foe!” General Colin Powell who is not known to be a wild eyed Liberal commented on Romney’s remark by saying, “Come on Mitt.... think, that’s not so!”

You simply can't just talk Mitt Romney's actions away!
I'm not trying to "talk Mitt Romney's actions away". I'm not saying Mitt is the best man for the job. What I am saying is Obama is far, far, far from the man you are trying to make him out to be and his administration is really making a mess of things.

Did Romney know all that was going on with the blind dissident. No and he should have waited to see what would happen. Since he was in the limelight the Chinese government wasn't going to do anything crazy at that particular moment but when I hear this..........
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..... I have to truly believe that the Obama administration has no idea how the Chinese government works.

Do I think Russia is our number 1 foe? Not number 1 but they are in the top 10. If you don't think so then you may be a bit out of touch.


I think the thing about your posts that gets me the most is how I could easily replace the name Romney with Obama and have a legitimate statement. That's not a bash on you but a realization that your guy is no better. He spews the same crap. I almost fell out of my chair when he went after Mitt for having no foreign policy experience.

It all boils down to this....... 4 more years of it's Bush's fault or 4 more years of it's Obama's fault. The difference is we know how well Obama's been, let's hope and pray to God (no offense to mohamed or allah) that Mitt is better.
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And how did that work out? Have you ever had to deal with any of these fine folks? Reason, logic and sanity are 3 of many words not in their vernacular. Anyone in their right mind would know we didn't make or endorse the video. As a matter of fact..............
If you lived in a dictatorship where all was controlled it would be easier to believe the government approved! Combine that with our military presence in the Middle East and it seems more plausible to a person that lives in a backward country! We have to fight that ignorance... not just blame all Muslims!
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If you lived in a dictatorship where all was controlled it would be easier to believe the government approved! Combine that with our military presence in the Middle East and it seems more plausible to a person that lives in a backward country! We have to fight that ignorance... not just blame all Muslims!
I never blamed "All Muslims".
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Now here is a call I agree with.



Obama blocks Chinese company from owning Oregon wind farm

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