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Old 10-14-2012, 04:37 PM   #1561
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I agree with many of your basic ideas, but you aren't going to convince people by attacking the entire Conservative Right! The last thing to do is tell someone that you disagree with that they are a disease! They might take it personally! Some people are so touchy!
See, this is one of the biggest problems with the Dems these day; they need to put on their republican-conservative stomping boots and go on the offensive. the repugs are happy to take it into the mud, Obama needs to get down and dirty and make willard seem like hitler was a better choice.

oh, that reminds me, Thurston could have cruise-controlled his was into the presidency if he picked Rubio over Ryan. Instead he chooses to pander to the nut job tea party lunatics...
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I'm still open to both sides. I'm "LEANING" left......... Or is it right.....hell i don't know what you folks call it. I don't feel i can trust Romney.

And i KNOW i can't trust Obama, So i think i will stick with him(At the moment).

And i was yes'ing his words saying that no one was going to change anyone's feelers about the other guy. ... For the most part.... Its scary that i actually agree with him(amick) alot.
at least Obama actually did something useful. willard gives off that we're-denying-you-your-vacation-time-because-we're-not-doing-well-and-willard-shows-up-in-a-new-Ferrari-kinda-way.

oh yeah, i'm gonna repeal the great idea i implemented in MA...
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See, this is one of the biggest problems with the Dems these day; they need to put on their republican-conservative stomping boots and go on the offensive. the repugs are happy to take it into the mud, Obama needs to get down and dirty and make willard seem like hitler was a better choice.

oh, that reminds me, Thurston could have cruise-controlled his was into the presidency if he picked Rubio over Ryan. Instead he chooses to pander to the nut job tea party lunatics...
These are the types of incendiary slurs that are counter productive to this thread. I highly advise you against it.
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I'm still open to both sides. I'm "LEANING" left......... Or is it right.....hell i don't know what you folks call it. I don't feel i can trust Romney.

And i KNOW i can't trust Obama, So i think i will stick with him(At the moment).

And i was yes'ing his words saying that no one was going to change anyone's feelers about the other guy. ... For the most part.... Its scary that i actually agree with him(amick) alot.
Scary? Thought you lubbed me... lol
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These are the types of incendiary slurs that are counter productive to this thread. I highly advise you against it.
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i'm going to invent a new political category: fascist democrats. for the people and keep free enterprise on a short leash. that way, we can marinalize, demonize, humiliate, and put repubs/conserves in camps.

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See, this is one of the biggest problems with the Dems these day; they need to put on their republican-conservative stomping boots and go on the offensive. the repugs are happy to take it into the mud, Obama needs to get down and dirty and make willard seem like hitler was a better choice.

oh, that reminds me, Thurston could have cruise-controlled his was into the presidency if he picked Rubio over Ryan. Instead he chooses to pander to the nut job tea party lunatics...
This is the kind of intellectual argument that makes me worry about or country. When is the next occupy riot?

Maybe he chose a running mate that could actually help to control obamas 4 straight years of trillion dollar deficits. Ryan is chairman of the house budget committee, you remember the house right? They are the only branch to actually pass a budget when the dems in the senate have not in years. Rubio is charismatic but he is still a junior senator and we saw the disaster that was with Obama. Not everyone pander based on race like the dems.

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at least Obama actually did something useful. willard gives off that we're-denying-you-your-vacation-time-because-we're-not-doing-well-and-willard-shows-up-in-a-new-Ferrari-kinda-way.

oh yeah, i'm gonna repeal the great idea i implemented in MA...
Willard is more of a Bentley man in my opinion, not enough ground clearance to get a Ferrari on the car elevator
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This is the kind of intellectual argument that makes me worry about or country. When is the next occupy riot?

Maybe he chose a running mate that could actually help to control obamas 4 straight years of trillion dollar deficits. Ryan is chairman of the house budget committee, you remember the house right? They are the only branch to actually pass a budget when the dems in the senate have not in years. Rubio is charismatic but he is still a junior senator and we saw the disaster that was with Obama. Not everyone pander based on race like the dems.



Willard is more of a Bentley man in my opinion, not enough ground clearance to get a Ferrari on the car elevator
hahaha

you do know getting elected pres is more based upon how folks 'feel' about you, right? Regan was a perfect example of this, he could have been operating concentration camps, and folks STILL would have loved him. He had that, "everyone's good ole grandpa" feel to him...


actually, he's probably a maybach with driver kinda guy... lol
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Maybe he chose a running mate that could actually help to control obamas 4 straight years of trillion dollar deficits. Ryan is chairman of the house budget committee, you remember the house right? r

And taking Ryan out of the House to run for Veep gives him exactly what Constitutional control over the budget?

As to the House passing a budget and the Senate not doing anything with it, maybe if the House stopped putting poison pill riders in the "budget" that they knew weren't going to pass the Senate there could have been a budget passed. There was no point to the Senate doing anything with the budget, as they weren't going to pass the House budgets without stripping the riders out of them, and there was no point to the Senate doing anything beyond that point, as all appropriations legislation has to originate in the house. The house budgets were purely political gamesmanship of the worst kind.
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I'm still open to both sides. I'm "LEANING" left......... Or is it right.....hell i don't know what you folks call it. I don't feel i can trust Romney.

And i KNOW i can't trust Obama, So i think i will stick with him(At the moment).
So what has Obama been untrustworthy about?

That he didn't clean up the mess caused by multiple adminstrations starting before Clinton near fast enough? Our policies from Clinton to Bush drove put us in the ditch, so now Obama's got the broken car and 4 years, or Romney gets to drive us back to the same place Bush had us before that crash! That is more Trickle down economics, more tax cuts for the rich who don't need them, kill Medicare by removing the individual mandate, and ship more tax money to the Military Industrial Complex because China got it's 1st "used" aircraft carrier! When don't need a bigger military! We need a leaner, quicker military!


He may not have done everything I wanted done, but then I don't get to see his problems up close! Our healthcare was screwing people with pre-existing conditions and people running out of coverage and going broke, while many weren't covered and running to emergency rooms spending almost 19¢ of every dollar created in the U.S. and creating the biggest contributor to the national debt! The Nobel Price winning economist said "If we had any of the European "efficient" healthcare systems we would have little or no national debt!" We'd have 11% more GDP to pay down the national debt because other countries pay 8% to cover everybody! So Obama did something about! He put the very successful Romneycare at the national level to attack the problem and all we can do is bitch and say, "Are we there yet?" Obama is certainly not perfect, but he is trying, and at least he doesn't have the agenda to kill Medicare dead by removing the "individual mandate" so the prices go up until it dies as the insurance industry wants!

Give the guy a break! We are going the right direction now and things are slowly inproving! My Toyota dealer sold out a model I wanted and I had to wait in a long line to get into my favorite Buffet Restaurant! The sky is not falling, but we were losing 800,000 jobs a month and the stock market was half what it is now when Obama took over!
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