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Old 10-14-2012, 01:24 PM   #1541
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He became President.
And that does what?
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"We weren't told they wanted more security " for diplomatic facilities in Libya.
Joe Biden on Thursday, October 11th, 2012 in the vice presidential debate.

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That statement is accurate only if you define "we" to mean "people at the White House." A State Department officer in Libya said that he requested additional guards and was turned down by at least one other official in the State Department. The White House said Biden meant that the security requests had not been conveyed to him and others in the executive office.

It's possible that Biden and Obama were unaware of that request. Still, it was made in the State Department, which is part of the Obama administration. Even if it didn't make its way up through the bureaucracy, a request was made. That is the truth...Albeit a badly timed inconvenient truth for the Obama administration this close to the election.
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After the next debate, I will be closing this thread and poll, and starting a new one. With a new poll.
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Except gov't stuck it's fat nose into tuition loan guarantees which caused the colleges to raise tuition rates.
"caused"? I don't think so... Colleges got greedy, not the other way around. They're a business like any other. Any business can (and will if they can pull it off) "unify" and set-the-market. The ultimate business model takes in money and gives nothing in return.

Does it bother anyone at all that years ago, the only thing someone would finance was a house?
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"caused"? I don't think so... Colleges got greedy, not the other way around. They're a business like any other. Any business can (and will if they can pull it off) "unify" and set-the-market. The ultimate business model takes in money and gives nothing in return.

Does it bother anyone at all that years ago, the only thing someone would finance was a house?
I agree. I get the gist of what's trying to be conveyed, but poorly worded.

I suggest another cup of coffee & give er' another shot!
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And that does what?
Gee, let's see, at the highest level, he's the successful end result of the civil rights movement.

Let's see, he eliminated, for example, pre-exising conditions and removed maximum limitations. Yes, he did this for EVERYONE, so maybe you can make the argument he's for ALL people???
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I agree. I get the gist of what's trying to be conveyed, but poorly worded.

I suggest another cup of coffee & give er' another shot!
Unlike Opinyawn, I'm not really going to craft a delightfully "worthsmithed" post. I'm too lazy, and it's too nice out.

Quick, dirty, and to the point I say.
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"caused"? I don't think so... Colleges got greedy, not the other way around. They're a business like any other. Any business can (and will if they can pull it off) "unify" and set-the-market. The ultimate business model takes in money and gives nothing in return.

Does it bother anyone at all that years ago, the only thing someone would finance was a house?
That's why we have anti-trust laws. Making a blank statement like we need more regulations can be twisted and picked apart the same as saying we need less regulation. When conservatives argue for a smaller federal government it should not be twisted into a hate of all government. We want a smaller more effective and efficient government. A huge money sucking bureaucracy with numerous over lapping agencies where no one seems to be responsible is not needed to manage everything.

Does it not bother anyone that government spending has now climbed to 40%.of our GDP?
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Unlike Opinyawn, I'm not really going to craft a delightfully "worthsmithed" post. I'm too lazy, and it's too nice out.

Quick, dirty, and to the point I say.
Like you said earlier, it's just wasted time. No one will be changing their mind. Just an anti Obama thread....

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Like you said earlier, it's just wasted time. No one will be changing their mind. Just an anti Obama thread....

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