Cant get this thing running
#21
Senior Member
Yeah if you dont want to hop it up a long block is fine. Migh be a bit cheaper. But id ask a shop for the stock rebuild price to be sure which is really cheaper.
#22
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300 engines usually just last forever. Try and find a used one with about 150,000 or less ($200 - $300) and just have all the gaskets redone. It'll last.
But just because Napa says you have a bad flexplate because they don't want to warranty it doesn't mean it's true. It might be, but don't take it as bible 'cause some guy at the parts counter said it.
But just because Napa says you have a bad flexplate because they don't want to warranty it doesn't mean it's true. It might be, but don't take it as bible 'cause some guy at the parts counter said it.
#23
Woah! Dont jump the gun, tackle your firing order first, and dont rely on your harmonic balancer to be acurate, they slip over time.
Find tdc one #1 any other way, you dont have to be perfect, just close enough to make sure you have cylinder one wired to the right spot on the distributor. Its possible you broke the starter because of misfires puting too much pressure on the gear
Find tdc one #1 any other way, you dont have to be perfect, just close enough to make sure you have cylinder one wired to the right spot on the distributor. Its possible you broke the starter because of misfires puting too much pressure on the gear
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#25
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I had to use a piston stop to find TDC on my 86 300. I finally saw the line. It was very narrow. I missed it like 15 times. I did use a file and widen it up and use some soap stone to mark it. Then it was cake.
Also in the picture above the arrow is moving CLOCKWISE.Which is showing the direction of how the spark travels along the distributor.
Another thing you can do is put the NEW starter back in the truck and using a breaker bar turn the engine over and try to use the key again.
SOunds like your mechanics have a case of too many issues and too many mechanics.
In trouble shooting, you fix one thing at a time. You might be introducing issues as you replace parts.
Also in the picture above the arrow is moving CLOCKWISE.Which is showing the direction of how the spark travels along the distributor.
Another thing you can do is put the NEW starter back in the truck and using a breaker bar turn the engine over and try to use the key again.
SOunds like your mechanics have a case of too many issues and too many mechanics.
In trouble shooting, you fix one thing at a time. You might be introducing issues as you replace parts.
#26
Senior Member
Before you go dumping a ton of money into the truck, take some advice and look at some youtube channels. They can show you how to do about everything you need to with your truck. Everybody started somewhere mechanically.
As for the starter, a broken gear means that it was a defective part. Unless your flywheel is missing a lot of teeth it should not break at all. If there were shims on your old starter and you didn't put them on the new one, that could have broken the gear by jamming it into the flywheel ring gear. You can manually turn the flywheel with a screwdriver to check the teeth.
As far as timing goes, verify TDC (Top Dead Center) before you check anything else. Take it 1 problem at a time and don't try to fix everything at once. I'll be waiting to see how this works out.
As for the starter, a broken gear means that it was a defective part. Unless your flywheel is missing a lot of teeth it should not break at all. If there were shims on your old starter and you didn't put them on the new one, that could have broken the gear by jamming it into the flywheel ring gear. You can manually turn the flywheel with a screwdriver to check the teeth.
As far as timing goes, verify TDC (Top Dead Center) before you check anything else. Take it 1 problem at a time and don't try to fix everything at once. I'll be waiting to see how this works out.
#28
Ok, Update Update Update!!
So I got this thing running!!!!! I am SO stoked! Of course it turned out to be simple. After NAPA would not warranty there crappy defective part, I went to O'Reillys. I bought a new starter with a confirmed lifetime warranty. They told me that napa should have warrantied it no question.
I also picked up new spark plugs. Turns out.... That was it. New starter and plugs and it fired right up on the first turn.
I was definitely thinking that the mechanic I took it to would have replaced them. Guess not.
So first thing I did was drove it down to the exhaust shop. Now has a new Magnaflow All stainless with 2.5" pipe all the way. It does blow a little bit of blue smoke due to that first cylinder ring. But, Im not worried about that. It should be just fine for my needs.
Next step is to redo to brakes!!!
So I got this thing running!!!!! I am SO stoked! Of course it turned out to be simple. After NAPA would not warranty there crappy defective part, I went to O'Reillys. I bought a new starter with a confirmed lifetime warranty. They told me that napa should have warrantied it no question.
I also picked up new spark plugs. Turns out.... That was it. New starter and plugs and it fired right up on the first turn.
I was definitely thinking that the mechanic I took it to would have replaced them. Guess not.
So first thing I did was drove it down to the exhaust shop. Now has a new Magnaflow All stainless with 2.5" pipe all the way. It does blow a little bit of blue smoke due to that first cylinder ring. But, Im not worried about that. It should be just fine for my needs.
Next step is to redo to brakes!!!
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