Supercharger on 2015 5.0 KR
#11
2015 Mustang 5.0 is 425hp 400lb tq and our 5.0 is 385 and 387...the Roush supercharger and tune (and anyone else for that matter) is probably a mild tune to get to 570hp and 500+ lb tq...I hope. I want to "turn it up" after the warranty or my patience runs out
#12
I am sure Edelbrock will be working on a kit as well. I will check in with my Rep there and see what he says. That will be the most cost effective way to get boosted most likely given previous price points for their kits.
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#13
Example: http://www.roushperformance.com/pdf/...ty_10-1-14.pdf
#14
In regards to warranty; Roush, Whipple and Edelbrock all offer warranty coverage when using their base kits and tuning. None of these options maintain the factory warranty but instead use a limited aftermarket warranty that is purchased separately. This optional warranty only applies to the trucks power train. The factory warranty will cover the remainder of the truck parts that are stock.
Example: http://www.roushperformance.com/pdf/...ty_10-1-14.pdf
Example: http://www.roushperformance.com/pdf/...ty_10-1-14.pdf
3 Year/36,000 Mile Parts warranty included (ROUSH Supplied Parts Only) - See more at: http://www.roushperformance.com/part....juSMbHJd.dpuf
http://www.roushperformance.com/parts/2011-2013-50L-Ford-F-150-Supercharger-ROUSH-R2300-Phase-2-Kit-570-HP.html
#15
Here is what I see and understand as continuing the Ford factory warranty but there is def extended warranty.
3 Year/36,000 Mile Parts warranty included (ROUSH Supplied Parts Only) - See more at: http://www.roushperformance.com/part....juSMbHJd.dpuf
http://www.roushperformance.com/parts/2011-2013-50L-Ford-F-150-Supercharger-ROUSH-R2300-Phase-2-Kit-570-HP.html
3 Year/36,000 Mile Parts warranty included (ROUSH Supplied Parts Only) - See more at: http://www.roushperformance.com/part....juSMbHJd.dpuf
http://www.roushperformance.com/parts/2011-2013-50L-Ford-F-150-Supercharger-ROUSH-R2300-Phase-2-Kit-570-HP.html
ROUSH Optional Limited Powertrain Warranty Level 1 -- 1 Year / 12,000 Mile
ROUSH Optional Limited Powertrain Warranty Level 2 -- 3 Year / 36,000 Mile
ROUSH Optional Limited Powertrain Warranty Level 3 -- 5 Year / 60,000 Mile"
This is not an extension of the Factory powertrain warranty. I deal with these kinds of questions daily and sell a lot of these kits.
When you purchase a Roush equipped vehicle from a dealer it is easiest for them to explain to their customer that the vehicle has a full warranty. Most customers don't feel the need to ask into who is offering the warranty and assume it is Ford. That is not the case. Why would Ford warranty any aftermarket parts or failure causes by aftermarket parts that were not there when the vehicle was built? Some sales guys don't even know this when selling these Roush equipped cars and trucks.
If you install a Roush Supercharger kit yourself you are not eligible for any of the powertrain warranty options. It HAS to be installed by a certified dealer or performance shop.
#17
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Whipple has a 2.9L kit that states they cover 2011-2015 5.0s. It will be a little bit of time before any custom tuning is ready for the 2015 trucks so you would have to stick with whatever tuning Whipple has if any on 2015 trucks. Their 5.0 kit is realitively new so not many out there yet. This is the option I would like to go with myself since it's the same blowers we put on the 6.2 Raptor trucks and they work damn well.
Your user name says [MENTION=8101]jdm[/MENTION]. Do you work for TeamJDM.com?
Wayne
#18
We have been doing the 2011-2014 5.0 trucks since they came out. Our largest customer bases for the F150 trucks are the Roush 5.0 trucks and the 6.2 Raptors. We mainly specialize in supercharged tuning applications for the Roush and Whipple kits but we do N/A trucks as well. Jim's tunes are favored for their excellent drive-ability. His auto trans tuning is amazing.
2015 Ford tuning in general has been a little slower to develop since the SCT software is still lacking necessary tables. In the 2015 Mustang world 5.0 tuning is available but once the SCT software is updated with more parameters the tuning will be that much better.
I have seen Torrie doing work in the Ford community lately and am impressed especially with his customer feedback for the Ecoboost Mustangs.
We have not messed around with the 2015 5.0s yet because I am still waiting for it to arrive : ) I am only guessing that there will be similar tuning obstacles as the Mustang.
Yes I work for JDM Engineering but I am trying my best not to sound to commercial since we are not a vendor here...yet.
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Senior Member
Oh I know all about JDM as I come from the Lightning and Harley forums. I just found it odd that Jim hadnt tuned a 2015, that's why I questioned if you worked there. But you clarified that buy saying supercharged 5.0L 15. Wasn't sure if [MENTION=8101]jdm[/MENTION] was some other JDM that's all
Yeah Torrie has been doing some really impressive things with not only the Mustangs, the things he does to those little STs are very impressive among many others.
Wayne
Yeah Torrie has been doing some really impressive things with not only the Mustangs, the things he does to those little STs are very impressive among many others.
Wayne
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#20
I cannot speak directly to the 2015 supercharger kits since the topic is so new and two of the three manufactures do not even have kits out yet.
But speaking from what I have seen in the past this is how I view the Whipple, Roush and Edelbrock kits.
Whipple
Whipple is offering the largest supercharger head unit being a 2.9L twin screw supercharger. This supercharger has a 3x5 internal rotor design and is very efficient at making top end power (it also has that awesome blower whine). Whipple has one of the largest air to water heat exchangers and intercoolers so their kits are very well suited to make big horsepower at higher boost levels. I recommend these kits to my customers who live in warmer climates since the cooling capacity is the best available. Basically if you want room to grow the Whipple is the way to go. They offer many pulley sizes to dial in your desired boost level and use a large elliptical throttle body that allow the supercharger to pull in more air easier. The Whipple kit is usually the most expensive.
Roush
The Roush supercharger is a 2.3L TVS. This supercharger uses a 4x4 internal rotor design and makes really good low and mid-range torque due to it's size and design. They also run pretty darn cool for being a relatively small supercharger but tend to have less noise/whine than a Whipple. These blowers make good top end power as well but will surpass their efficiency before the larger Whipple. I recommend the Roush kit to those who are looking for that "OEM" look and who are not looking for maximum power and/or to push the limits of the powertrain. The Roush kit is a good choice for a daily driven truck where you want to "get on it" occasionally to have some fun. They also use GT500 style throttle bodies so upgrading that is an option but pulley size is limited from Roush. There are a few aftermarket pulley options from VMP however. The Roush kit is priced just under the Whipple kit typically.
Edelbrock
This supercharger is also a 2.3 TVS similar the the Roush design. The Edelbrock has an inverse design that uses long intake runners to increase part throttle, low end torque. Theses superchargers will provide similar performance to the base Roush kit but does not offer much room to grow (easily that is). The Edelbrock uses the stock throttle body limiting the amount of air the blower can pull in. Any upgraded throttle body is still limited by the smaller blower inlet size. They do have optional pulley sizes to bump up the boost a little bit, but the kit uses the stock air box. The stock air box presents an issue.
The MAF housing size is small (about 80mm) so the MAF sensor reaches its maximum frequency at a relatively low power level. This can only be resolved by custom making an air kit with a large MAF housing or going with a higher range sensor. To compare, the Roush kit uses a 100mm MAF housing and the Whipple has a massive 123mm housing. This allows us to make more power and use the stock MAF sensor allowing us to tune the truck easier with excellent drivability.
The Edelbrock kit is usually the cheapest option and one of the easiest to install.
Hope this helps!
Last edited by Nick@JDM; 04-10-2015 at 04:13 PM.
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