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Old 06-26-2016, 02:12 PM
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Dropped = Dented, Bent, Damaged. The lighter the drive shaft the more efficient it is. Easier to balance, stay in balance.

Reusable gasket. Because they can make one. Actually save you money. Try and show a little technology.

What's so silly?
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sysop
Wouldn't installing a new shaft require balancing once installed? How would a shaft be in balance until installed and removed? I'd think if you make sure you're installing it in the exact orientation it came out, it would remain balanced. At most change the bolts if they require stretching for the installation.
You can have a drive shaft balanced outside of the vehicle. They make machines for doing that.

Just like they balance a wheel on a machine and not on a vehicle.

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How much would it cost Ford to troubleshoot an unbalanced drive shaft, at the dealer under warranty, and then have to supply a new part anyway, compared to just dumping it before installation?

I suspect that Ford has been there, done that, enough times to warrant putting the warning label on.

Smart and cost-efficient.
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i think there more worried about it tearing in half on the highway causing lawsuites over diag time for vibration
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It's pretty common to scrap parts that have been dropped even if nothing appears to be wrong with them. I worked at a machine shop where I made bolts and fittings for the aviation purposes... if a part hit the floor it went into the scrap bin and you made another.
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Originally Posted by jsdecorte
2015 rear shaft. new truck slid off the ramps while unloading. shaft got dented and and just peeled open as the rear wheels turned. trans was still in park
Naaahh that's just further proof the EB makes more torque than the 5.0...just sayin....LOL!! kidding guys
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:43 AM
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^^ LOL bold....

who is balancing a driveshaft ON the vehicle? lol

how is that even done? I'm had 10+ custom made on all kinds of applications, all balanced off the vehicle. You bolt it up, if its not good, you rotate around until it is. If its done well, it should be fine in any orientation but my experience is that you end up having to rotate the bolt holes to get it right. Much like the rest of modern day parts, more expensive than ever, but less quality than parts made in the 90s.

/end rant on current product quality
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If the shaft gets literally dropped (not simply uninstalled), it's likely to be dented or structurally compromised even if it appears to be okay. It's cheaper to replace a driveshaft than it is to halt production, uninstall the shaft, visually inspect it, spool it up to check for vibration, and scan it for cracks or other defects. Beyond that, if the part fails and a lawsuit is filed, you're in deep **** if the plaintiff finds out you knowingly put a damaged critical part on their vehicle. Risk mitigation 101. I'd wager this decision was made by legal and business people, not engineers.
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Usually due to a non-replaceable carrier bearing and/or u-joint.



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