2ndchance

Yes, imagine how butthurt we'll be AFTER we've driven it! Haha. BTW, that's a sweet looking boat in your profile pic.

CDC5.0

Look, this is just Motor Trend backing up their 2 time truck of the year winner. The 2.7TT F-150 performed better in towing and hauling and had better payload than the Ram. It also had a way better drive feel around town than the Chevy. The Ram had a nicer ride and a more thought out interior (which is entirely subjective), and of course better fuel economy.
It stands to reason that with all the hype around what you pay at the pump the truck with the best mileage will get the top spot so long as all other aspects of it aren't a total disappointment.

What I got from this article is if you want your truck to do "truck stuff"and feel the best when working from the drivers seat than Ford is by far the way to go.

If you want a nice comfy ride with the best mpg's hop on into a Ram. I'd also note that the Ram has not had a major exterior refresh in 6 years.

If you want a truck that looks good on paper, with a quiet ergonomic interior, but feels like a total dog on the roads by all means get a GM.

I think the article was interesting and a good read but its clear that the MT crew is bias. Just buy what makes you happy and don't get too bent out of shape if the tabloids don't think its #1 (it will always be #1 to you regardless anyway )

All Hat No Cattle

Excellent point, the spread between diesel and gas does vary.

But overall, how do you explain this? $450 a year more for diesel annual fuel costs. No 4x4, no towing, no acceleration difference, just 2 basic trucks tested exactly the same.

Scrappy Doo

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$1.10 a gallon difference here in mn from regular to diesel.

Matt_E_Salesman

For the record, 2014 F150s without factory equipped tow packages are limited to a 5000# tow rating regardless of cab size, engine, or gearing. 2015s should be the same. Ford's payload ratings are with a full tank of fuel and 150# driver, extra passengers, cargo, wd hitch, etc must all be subtracted to arrive at true available payload.

2ndchance

Yeah, the truck was rated to tow 5000 lbs. They hooked up a 7000 lb trailer and it outran the others. Haha.

brulaz

Think just the trailer tow capacity and GCWR include the skinny driver. Payload doesn't.

Daytoman

Nope, I think they summed it up just fine.

"Seabaugh said it best: "With the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, you get a truck that's quick when you want it to be, efficient most all of the time, always comfortable loaded or unloaded, luxurious, and always ready to work. It's amazing how capable this truck is -- the more time I spend with it, the more I'm reminded why it's our first-ever back-to-back truck of the year winner." To that, I can add: winner of this test."

They also put the whole "Ya but, Diesel is more expensive" debate to rest.

Well, Ford put a whole lot of effort for very little return. They should have put a diesel option in the F150 and concentrated more on an efficient and powefull V8.

The EB is a misguided venture and the aluminum is an unknown venture.

Oh well....

Daytoman

That doesent take into account real world MPGs. The 2.7 is NEVER going to even sniff 22 combined MPG. So take the combined REAL WORLD average down to around 17mpg (as they got in the write up, because you know most people will do 80% of their driving in town and not on the hwy) and see how it looks. So if you simply take the 23% less real world MPGs and add 23% to the yearly spend then your looking at an even spend....even though thats only a simple way to look at it. So that page is highly misleading.
The Diesel WILL and DOES get a solid 20-23 real world combined mpg. So no need to change anything on the diesel.

Daytoman

Thats awesome! I bet theres no way youd say that if they declared the F150 winner.