ebrobb

I skimmed though this article real quick, I guess I don't see much to gritch about. They couldn't test a comparable F-150 only because it simply wasn't available to them. Most of the price difference was in options and luxury features anyway, they say that right at the beginning.


I am a Dodge/Ram fan and have had 4 over the years, they have proven reliable the last one I sold had 385k on the clock and was still stone axe reliable, I sold it to the new owner in good conscience that it was still a good truck. I then purchased another Dodge this one having much rust but only 121k on the clock, seems to be a reliable truck thus far.


I am very interested in the new F-150 due to the aluminum body, as I keep my trucks for a long time, and as they approach 6-7 years old rust begins to be a problem, no matter what brand of truck it is. While I love diesels with all the new EPA regulations, DEF, and expensive oil changes and fuel costing almost $1.00 more per gallon Ford has produced a better mouse trap with the EcoBoost engines.


I wouldn't even look at the new Silverado, my boss got one as a loaner when his truck was in the shop for a couple days, I got to drive it, MT is spot on when they say the truck feels slow, and throttle response is terrible. It was a nice truck to sit in but I thought the interior was laid out quirky with many small buttons scattered all over, and I'm not a fan of the exterior styling either, I hate the huge mass of chrome slathered all over the entire front of the truck. My boss is a huge Chevy guy though, so I'm sure he will continue to blindly purchase them for his business and personal use, he doesn't own any other brand.


I honestly haven't been in a Ram since about the 2006 model year, all the ones I have owned were at least that old, and I don't even know anyone that has owned a newer Ram so I can't really comment.


I can say if/when I go shopping I will give the Ram a good close look, probably not the EcoDiesel, or the HEMI, but the V-6 gas, but then I will most likely buy the F-150.

130428

I read this article...
What I got out of it was "the Chev is a POS (in comparison), the RAM and Ford are just as good as the other, so pick what you want, but we like the RAM better because it's our Truck of the Year".
Nothing more, nothing less...

tripower

I'm a current 2010 Ram owner, I'm ready to replace it, and I'm seriously considering for F150 for my next truck. The Ram has been totally reliable for the last 5 years.

I really like the idea of an aluminum body and a turbo V6 in a great looking truck - but only if the rest of truck turns out to be as good as the Ram. The truth is that the Ram is a really good truck as a total package. Everything works well together, the interior is at least as good as the competition, and it feels great on the road. Obviously, those are subjective things that won't show up on a stat sheet, but MT recognizes it and so do many other publications. Probably not something that will get much mileage on a Ford forum, but the rest of the world won't be as biased. An aluminum body alone won't dethrone the Ram. In my eyes they are extremely close in most areas. I just wish real world pricing was equal.

brulaz

I think that 5000# tow capacity must be a misprint.
The 1565# must have come of the door jambs.

nihilus

The build and price shows payload for the 7000 lb GVWR 2.7tt payload package. MT must have the standard 6500 lb GVWR 2.7tt truck.
6500 lbs GVWR - 1565 lb payload = 4935 lbs which is what the truck weighs.
Most will get the 7000 lb GVWR which is standard on the 5.0/3.5tt trucks.
So realistically...
Ford about 2000 lb payload in a crewcab

GM about 1500 lb payload in a crewcab

Ram less than 1000 lb payload in a crewcab

Platinum T.C.

Could the 5000# Tow be for a Two Wheel drive short bed with the 2.6 eco or V-6.
I haven't received my Motor Trend as of today.
I believe Dodge was part of Government Motors.
Ford didn't take the Bait & there are hard feelings, Politically.
You have to look outside of the Box.
Pretty hard to compete with a Government Agency.
It is what it is.
Chevy Trucks look like the body doesn't match the Wheels. Tires and Wheels are Shaped ROUND. Chevy Truck Fenders are shaped SQUARE. It doesn't match. A Round Tire in a Square hole.
Dodges are nice Trucks if you like that style of a Honey Bee front grill.
We can choose what we want. That's the Fun part.
Always, Follow the Money.

LSchicago

5,000 is the standard tow rating without the tow package. Unfair to rate a truck not equipped with the tow package in a towing competition......

brulaz

Assuming the tow package is installed:

They were comparing the 2.6L EcoB not the NA V6. And even the NA V6 has 7100-7600# tow capacity with the 3.73 rear end. With the 3.55 rear end, it drops to 5100#.

The *minimum* 2.7 EcoB tow capacity is 7600#. Max is 8500#.

It's a mistake on their part.

If the tow package was not installed, then they've really proved their incompetence.

LSchicago

Do a build & price. It states that the towing package is required to tow over 5,000#, and is optional on XL, XLT, Lariat, King Ranch & Platinums.

brulaz

Yep, it's possible they used a truck without the trailer tow package.
Over-loading it by 2000#. Hard to believe.

And it still performed well on the tow test without overheating.

What idiots.