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Old 02-06-2016, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nyron
The vibration issue has me worried. I was ready to take my 2015 F-150 to the local GM dealer but not after reading so many horror stories.
That and my noise from the transfer case has me really worried the only reason I even still have this truck is because ford gave me a free extended warranty. I was told by a friend that is going through a lemon law with ford over this new 15 truck that ford is backed up with lemon law cases... Sad really sad.

I can bring my truck in one more time over the transfer case issue and it's on. I just am tried of dealing with the ford dealer. I am just waiting for something to break and they can have the pos back.
Old 02-06-2016, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bigcitymike
I guess I need to drive one. I'm just having a hard time thinking that a 2.7L is going to make it over the long haul (200,000 miles+), with the engine always being squeezed to move the hunk of aluminum around.
Can you remember when they came out with the 351 with four barrel carb with 210 or so HP. That was a big deal back then. Now we are wondering if 300 plus is enough on a lighter truck. Just saying
Old 02-06-2016, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bigcitymike
I guess I need to drive one. I'm just having a hard time thinking that a 2.7L is going to make it over the long haul (200,000 miles+), with the engine always being squeezed to move the hunk of aluminum around.
If you are shopping half-ton PU's, you owe it to yourself to drive the 2.7L. Also do a little research from the likes of SAE, and other tech publications, to see what all went into engineering that engine. It was a clean-sheet design, and Ford got it right.

REALLY looking forward to the upcoming Fusion Sport, with the 2.7 Eco & AWD. Should be a real sleeper.
Old 02-06-2016, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowF150
Another part of my decision was to reward Ford for not taking a tax payer stolen bail out during the recession. I am a firm believer in putting my money where my mouth is. Chrysler and GM will not be getting my money unless Ford falls of drastically. And quite honestly, Ford overall is making the best vehicles since the recession,shoulders above the rest. Find what you like and get it. I am very happy with my F150.
Umm...FYI, Ford ALSO took some "free gubbermint" money. Not as much as GM and Chrysler, but they STILL did. You Ford fanboys just don't want to accept that fact do you? And oh, "best vehicles"? Umm, leaking moonroofs, heated "cooled" seatbacks, crappy roof gutter finish, door alignment issues, door lock issues, crappy "premium stereo system", touchy Adaptive cruise control system, thanks but no thanks.
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo
Biggest myth out there....

Ford took $ too.
You are incorrect. Ford took a private loan from a bank at interest. Which is what GM and Chrysler should have done. This is what any for profit company should do ethics wise and legally really.
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As I re-reviewed the government bail out...Ford did not take TARP money, which was the tax payer funded bail out money for poor performing "too big to fail" companies. Ford took a separate government loan from money what was set aside for auto manufacturers to meet certain requirements for "green" and "electric" vehicles.

It is fair to debate whether or not these loans should be given, but this was different money for different objectives.
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Originally Posted by SnowF150
You are incorrect. Ford took a private loan from a bank at interest. Which is what GM and Chrysler should have done. This is what any for profit company should do ethics wise and legally really.
Forgive me. The 5 billion plus loan from the Feds must fave just been a friendly tax return.

Regardless, I hate ford fanboys that throw out the government motors etc. get over it. Compare product to product and move on.
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meh not worth it
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Originally Posted by zx12-iowa
Being from mn and with that perspective, sounds like a dfl voter.
A bail out loan is different from an incentive loan to make law compliant vehicles.

Registered Republican (unfortunately) but really independant/Libertarian you goon. Volunteered for Ron Paul's campaign. I may not know a ton about trucks but dont be foolish and test me on politics.

Anyways, if you think voting actually matters in this day of electronic voting machines you are a fool. The "hanging chad" was an intentional ploy by the Bushs' to get their back door rigged electronic machines in.
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There are various reasons we choose to drive a Ford. There are equally as many reasons to put up with certain things that come with the brand. I've always loved ford vehicles and now I'm driving a 2015 F150 I am even more impressed. What makes me even more proud is I'm not driving a Government Motors pickup.
Ya all can rattle as long as you want!


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