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Old 09-17-2015, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bigandtall
The payload package brings the super cab models up to approximately what you get with the base super crew models for payload.

The HD payload package is a whole level higher, for super crews, and was actually not produced last year even though it was promised, or, barely produced. Several forum members had their orders cancelled by Ford after waiting almost a year for one.
Well stated. Many have been confused by these packages. Officially, they are called either the 2.7 EcoBoost Payload Package, option code 622, which effectively brings the capacity of the truck equipped with a 2.7 with the standard payload of a 3.5 EcoBoost or 5.0. The other option, called the Heavy-Duty Payload Package requires a 5.0 V8 or 3.5 EcoBoost, is option code 627. This is the option which enables Ford to claim "Best In Class Payload." I wish Ford would rename these packages to eliminate the confusion.


The most the payload could possibly be on a 2.7 EcoBoost Payload package (assuming no options) on a SuperCrew 4x4 would be 1960 pounds, and with a 3.5 Ecoboost Heavy Duty Payload package 4x4 SuperCrew 2650 pounds. A 5.0 V8 4x4 SuperCrew Heavy Duty Payload Package could be a maximum 2660 pounds. (However, the 3.5 will be rated for higher towing capacity than the 5.0; 11,500 for the 3.5 and 10,800 for the 5.0) These are for 2015 data; I can't find 2016 yet.

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/

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Originally Posted by Velosprout
Well stated. Many have been confused by these packages. Officially, they are called either the 2.7 EcoBoost Payload Package, option code 622, which effectively brings the capacity of the truck equipped with a 2.7 with the standard payload of a 3.5 EcoBoost or 5.0. The other option, called the Heavy-Duty Payload Package requires a 5.0 V8 or 3.5 EcoBoost, is option code 627. This is the option which enables Ford to claim "Best In Class Payload." I wish Ford would rename these packages to eliminate the confusion.


The most the payload could possibly be on a 2.7 EcoBoost Payload package (assuming no options) on a SuperCrew 4x4 would be 1960 pounds, and with a 3.5 Ecoboost Heavy Duty Payload package 4x4 SuperCrew 2650 pounds. A 5.0 V8 would 4x4 SuperCrew Heavy Duty Payload Package could be a maximum 2660 pounds. (However, the 3.5 will be rated for higher towing capacity than the 5.0; 11,500 for the 3.5 and 10,800 for the 5.0) These are for 2015 data; I can't find 2016 yet.

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/
Good info! what's the max without payload on those trims?
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk87
Cant see sig on the mobile version weird
Here is my sig information for you mobile guys:
2011 F150 4X4, 5.0, SCAB, Lbed, HD Payload Package, Blue Flame Metallic, ARE Shell, Front - JL Audio C5-525, Rear - Kappa 602.11cfX4, Dually reverse lights, Dually high beams, DD3, Kenwood DNX890 with Maestro, NVX MVPA4 and MVPA1, JL Audio 10TW3 subwooofer in custom cabinet, Billnvic HIDs, RCI Metalworks skidplates, heated front seats, AMP steps.

Also have the 36gal tank. I have seen 19 mpg actual on the road. Really happy.
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk87
Thanks. That was helpful. I'll probably end up with a simile payload plus j Weill put a spray Berliner with will add some weight I think.
First, you're making an assumption. Be real careful in making that assumption. Payloads vary widely based on installed equipment and added accessories (tonneau cover, bed liners, ...).

Second, visit the Towing section of the forum and read about PAYLOAD and make sure you very clearly understand that the weight of your occupants and everything they bring with them, plus everything you load in the bed, plus a weight distribution hitch, all are subtracted from your payload. A tremendous amount of people don't understand or do the math, buy a trailer too heavy to safely tow, and risk the safety of their family and everyone else by driving on the road.
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Originally Posted by Feathermerchant
Here is my sig information for you mobile guys:
2011 F150 4X4, 5.0, SCAB, Lbed, HD Payload Package, Blue Flame Metallic, ARE Shell, Front - JL Audio C5-525, Rear - Kappa 602.11cfX4, Dually reverse lights, Dually high beams, DD3, Kenwood DNX890 with Maestro, NVX MVPA4 and MVPA1, JL Audio 10TW3 subwooofer in custom cabinet, Billnvic HIDs, RCI Metalworks skidplates, heated front seats, AMP steps.

Also have the 36gal tank. I have seen 19 mpg actual on the road. Really happy.
Dam that's a lot of stuff installed.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
First, you're making an assumption. Be real careful in making that assumption. Payloads vary widely based on installed equipment and added accessories (tonneau cover, bed liners, ...).

Second, visit the Towing section of the forum and read about PAYLOAD and make sure you very clearly understand that the weight of your occupants and everything they bring with them, plus everything you load in the bed, plus a weight distribution hitch, all are subtracted from your payload. A tremendous amount of people don't understand or do the math, buy a trailer too heavy to safely tow, and risk the safety of their family and everyone else by driving on the road.
That's one reason why I'm getting payload package. If an f150 can't tow a 25' jayco whitehawk at 6500 gvwr then there's an issue. Especially if it is equipped with a towing and payload package.
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Again - I'd refer you to the Towing section of the forum. People ask this day in and day out over there. Understanding the payload of a 2011 is irrelevant - it's the 2015 (or 2016) packages and what the ACTUAL PAYLOAD the sticker says that is relevant. As was stated prior, most are going to be in the 1,400 - 1,600 range, some lower, some higher. And your kids aren't going to weigh 40 or 50 pounds forever. Planning to be within 50 pounds of your capacity is not great planning. Getting a specific package without understanding the impact on the weight of the vehicle (and the decrease in Payload as a result) is not great planning.

The reality is that the 2015 was never made with the Heavy Duty Payload package - people had to cancel and order a 2016. So you're not going to find one on a lot. Therefore, unless you order a 2016, you're not getting it.

This page gives an IDEA of payload, but it doesn't include the "minuses" for all of the package weight that you'll likely add.

I'd also point out that if you have a large dealer, walk around the lot and read the PAYLOAD stickers on the actual trucks. You'll be surprised at what the chart says, and what the actual payload is when they add things like a moonroof, toneau cover, etc.

In short, the more research you do, the less likely you'll be one of those unfortunate people that says "hey, my trailer that I bought yesterday is too heavy for my F-150" or "my headlights are lighting the treetops" or "I'm towing 300 pounds over my legal capacity, but I don't care, I'm careful".

As an example of "reality", my 2013 should have a Payload of 1,830 pounds per the chart in the sales brochure I have. In reality, my sticker says 1,643, a difference of 187 pounds, or if you use the 10-15% rule 1,247 - 1,870 pounds of trailer I couldn't buy (I have the step and stripper pole and some other things in my packages). Then I added a tonneau cover that weighs ~ 50 pounds (says 62 shipping weight). I added a DualLiner in the bed which includes a heavy rubber mat (which is great) that weights 82 pounds shipped (assume 70). I added other things of negligible weight like mats, bed lights, etc, figure another 50 pounds to be generous. So my payload is 1,643 - 50 - 70 - 50 = 1,473. I weigh 200, my wife weighs 100 (you welcome dear), and my son weighs 160. I'm now down to 1,013. Put a WDH on and subtract another 100. 913 pounds.

I don't have a trailer, the heaviest thing I've towed is a 6 x 14 U-Haul and it wasn't close to full. I have put close to 2,000 pounds of scrap metal in the bed and driven very slowly with my wife to the scrapyard (no son, no tonneau cover). If I was going to get a trailer, I'd take my truck to the scales and weigh it. I'd have the trailer dealer put on a WDH hitch and the trailer and I'd tow that to the scales and weigh it (good posts on the Towing section about how to weigh the axles, how to adjust your WDH to move weight to the front axle of the truck, etc.) BEFORE I PAID A DIME FOR A TRAILER. Most Ford salesmen don't understand this well enough, or mislead you. Most trailer salesmen mislead you. Once you own both and find yourself up the creek without a paddle neither gives a hoot.

In short, unless you buy a 2016 with the Heavy Duty Payload package, you're not going to have a payload anything close to 2,000 pounds.

Read the towing forum. The discussions are eye-opening.

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Good post Rick,

I hadn't looked at mine before so i went out and had a look. I was surprised that my sticker only says 1800lb on my door jamb.






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Originally Posted by hunter306
Good post Rick,

I hadn't looked at mine before so i went out and had a look. I was surprised that my sticker only says 1800lb on my door jamb.
Now start subtracting the things you added. And yourself, your spouse, your kids, your dog, your luggage, the cooler of food and drinks....
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Originally Posted by hunter306
Good post Rick,

I hadn't looked at mine before so i went out and had a look. I was surprised that my sticker only says 1800lb on my door jamb.






I'm actually impressed yours is that high for a super crew! Max possible is, I think, 2,080 lbs with no options added to truck. Mine is at 1,661 lbs.

I wish I could find a chart that shows how much weight each option adds to a truck versus a base stock truck. For example, dual pane moon roof. You loose weight of the aluminum roof section removed but gain heavier moon roof unit. Difference is ???

I bought my truck knowing my main use is a full load of people and a full bed of gear - no trailer in general.

Otherwise, I'd want that HD payload package that never got made for 2015.

Again, that is cool that you breached the 1,800lb payload capacity with a super crew, you done good!


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