payload
#11
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what I have seen on the window stickers of the trucks coming to my local dealer is the gvwr rating is 7000lbs. mine is a 7700 lbs gvwr with max tow. my 11 was 7200 gvwr. so if the gvwr is lower then I don't think we are going to gain any payload capacity as the 15 MY trucks with options are not that much lighter than the pre 15 MY.
#12
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what I have seen on the window stickers of the trucks coming to my local dealer is the gvwr rating is 7000lbs. mine is a 7700 lbs gvwr with max tow. my 11 was 7200 gvwr. so if the gvwr is lower then I don't think we are going to gain any payload capacity as the 15 MY trucks with options are not that much lighter than the pre 15 MY.
I do wonder about the rational Ford has for doing this. Much of it must be cost savings as they do not need to build as robust a drive-train and suspension components for a lesser GVWR. And it is not as if they are pressured by the competition who even now do not have much of a payload advantage, especially the eternally pitiful Ram payload. And part of it may be keeping up the demand for the heavy duty models.
#13
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They have lighter weight components throughout to help save weight and keep cost down. So similar payloads. But a lighter truck may not be as stable towing a heavy load. We will see....
#14
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Is "what the sticker says" that important for most of you personal truck buyers??.... Personally I may be near at or above my gvwr (Ill never weigh everything and don't care) for about 5% of miles I'll ever drive. I was never able to load my 05 fx4 Scab with more weight than I felt comfortable moving..[I'm not sure what the payload was, but I remember the 18 year old me stuffing 2 buddies, our three dirt bikes, hundreds of additional pounds of gas, riding gear, firewood, camping gear, beer/food/ice, and a big *** dog in my dads old 97' 4x4 SCab XLT w/ ~275 hp on a good day rear drum brakes. We'd drive about 400miles round trip a couple times a year loaded down like that and no issues. Again, no idea what the gvwr on that was but we were a couple slump busters over.] point is that I know this new truck is more than capable of meeting my needs than any truck I've ever owned regardless of the number on a sticker resulting from an ever- changieng test used to come up with gvwr.
#15
The payloads are much improved due to weight reductions, even with the 200-700# reduction in GVWR. Would it of been nice for them to have kept the GVWR higher, absolutely... why didn't they? Few possible reasons of which may all be wrong, but I don't know the true answers... 1 - To meet spec for the Jxxxx towing standard, 2 - Not to compete with SuperDuty market, 3 - Due to lighter components being used in lighter truck.
Now, even without the bump in GVWR for max towing that used to be... trucks with similiar features will have a payload similiar to that of the previous gen max tow.
I've seen a fully decked out platinum (which has more features than ever now) have a payload of ~ 1500#. If you go look at a '14 platinum equivalent (with less features) and the 7200 GVWR... its payload is likely ~1000.
I do wish however you could get the HD Payload option with more features and on the KR/PLAT lines as well... now maybe you'll be able to in the future, I don't know. Hell, I'd love it on the 5.5' bed even more!
Now, even without the bump in GVWR for max towing that used to be... trucks with similiar features will have a payload similiar to that of the previous gen max tow.
I've seen a fully decked out platinum (which has more features than ever now) have a payload of ~ 1500#. If you go look at a '14 platinum equivalent (with less features) and the 7200 GVWR... its payload is likely ~1000.
I do wish however you could get the HD Payload option with more features and on the KR/PLAT lines as well... now maybe you'll be able to in the future, I don't know. Hell, I'd love it on the 5.5' bed even more!
#16
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Is "what the sticker says" that important for most of you personal truck buyers??.... Personally I may be near at or above my gvwr (Ill never weigh everything and don't care) for about 5% of miles I'll ever drive. I was never able to load my 05 fx4 Scab with more weight than I felt comfortable moving..[I'm not sure what the payload was, but I remember the 18 year old me stuffing 2 buddies, our three dirt bikes, hundreds of additional pounds of gas, riding gear, firewood, camping gear, beer/food/ice, and a big *** dog in my dads old 97' 4x4 SCab XLT w/ ~275 hp on a good day rear drum brakes. We'd drive about 400miles round trip a couple times a year loaded down like that and no issues. Again, no idea what the gvwr on that was but we were a couple slump busters over.] point is that I know this new truck is more than capable of meeting my needs than any truck I've ever owned regardless of the number on a sticker resulting from an ever- changieng test used to come up with gvwr.
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#19
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Is "what the sticker says" that important for most of you personal truck buyers??.... Personally I may be near at or above my gvwr (Ill never weigh everything and don't care) for about 5% of miles I'll ever drive. I was never able to load my 05 fx4 Scab with more weight than I felt comfortable moving..[I'm not sure what the payload was, but I remember the 18 year old me stuffing 2 buddies, our three dirt bikes, hundreds of additional pounds of gas, riding gear, firewood, camping gear, beer/food/ice, and a big *** dog in my dads old 97' 4x4 SCab XLT w/ ~275 hp on a good day rear drum brakes. We'd drive about 400miles round trip a couple times a year loaded down like that and no issues. Again, no idea what the gvwr on that was but we were a couple slump busters over.] point is that I know this new truck is more than capable of meeting my needs than any truck I've ever owned regardless of the number on a sticker resulting from an ever- changieng test used to come up with gvwr.
Man I laughed hard at this post. Havnt used the term "Slump Buster" since I was in college and grad school. Guess marriage will do that.
I wonder if the majority of the readers will catch what you meant.
Congrats to you sir! That was the funniest thing I read today!!