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Old 10-31-2014, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by isthatahemi
In all measurable ways, except peak horsepower and soundtrack, the 3.5 EB beats the 6.2. So I'm not sure what your point is? If, if, if,=whatever. The 6.2 is what it is, end of story. The EB could easily be tweaked for more horsepower at the higher rpm ranges, without any substantial changes too, so there's that. Both have their strengths, but the 6.2's drawbacks aren't palatable to most people, where as the EB is acceptable in most ways, to a many people.
Not so fast turbo - there is more to an engine than power and mpg. I've never come across a 6.2L F-150 owner that regretted the engine. Things like cost of maintenance, ease of maintenance, reliability loaded and unloaded are all important but don't always show well in a pretty little graphs. Furthermore, loaded up 3.5tts often get WORSE mpg than their 6.2L counterparts. There are dozens of threads about it. This was my point - the same arguments repeat with the 5.0L vs 2.7L. It's been done before. Saying the turbo 6 is better than a V-8 is like a diesel is better than a gas. It's a pointless argument.

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The one thing that people seem to forget (or at least seldom mention) is this:

There is a very good reason that the Max Tow option is not offered on the 5.0. Ford was very wise not to do that on an engine where the max torque curve is reached at 4,150 rpm....................when the EB does basically the same thing starting below 1,800 rpm and then stays there all the way to 4,150 rpm.
Stupid point Sterling. It is not mentioned because it was very obvious. The 5.0 was never in the same category as the 3.5tt However, the 6.2 did have max tow available. So what are you getting at exactly? The new "war" will be between the 2.7tt and the 5.0 since they are priced closed together. Oh and guess what - the 5.0L has a higher tow rating.
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Originally Posted by nihilus

Stupid point Sterling. It is not mentioned because it was very obvious. The 5.0 was never in the same category as the 3.5tt However, the 6.2 did have max tow available. So what are you getting at exactly? The new "war" will be between the 2.7tt and the 5.0 since they are priced closed together. Oh and guess what - the 5.0L has a higher tow rating.
OK, what exactly was, as you so articulately point out, "stupid"?
First, we are talking about the 2015's and the 6.2 is no longer available.......so we can safely disregard that particular misdirected argument. In the 2014's and prior, the 6.2 was probably near the EB's capabilty as a tow engine --- but again, probably at higher rpm and one gear lower on hills........
And for the "war" between the 2.7 and the 5.0...........NEITHER will be available with the max tow option, so everything still applies as the EB being the most capable tow engine in the lineup...has been since they brought it out, and will remain so into 2015.....
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Originally Posted by isthatahemi

Superior rated;
mileage
power
torque
towing capacity
power curve

Some of that may change if when Ford firms up the specs, but on the 2011's to 2014's the EB wins in every measurable aspect.

Tell me how I am wrong, I always appreciate free advice / information
You're basing its 'superiority' off of one set of criteria. If you develop a criteria based on a different viewpoint - the longevity and maintenance costs of a gas turbo versus a higher displacement motor - the advantage belongs to the v8. This isnt up for debate. Even if you do get 30 years / 300k out of a gas turbo motor its going to be a lot more expensive to do so.

Btw I get 24-25mpg at 70mph in my 5.0 reg cab. The eb has no mileage advantage when compared to my application.

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OK..............you got us...........After 150,000 miles, if you need to replace the engine, the EB is going to cost more to replace. Over that 150,000 miles, I am going to be towing more, at lower rpm, listening to a quieter engine....BARGAIN!
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Originally Posted by sterlingone
3.5L V-6 ECOBOOST ENGINE KIT. M-6007-35T* Suggested Retail Price. $9,400.00.

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OK..............you got us...........After 150,000 miles, if you need to replace the engine, the EB is going to cost more to replace. Over that 150,000 miles, I am going to be towing more, at lower rpm, listening to a quieter engine....BARGAIN!

But 'Merica! Lmao. I'm sorry, but argueing over engines just seems like a big circle jerk to me. And I refuse to touch anybody else's junk! Haha.
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Originally Posted by sterlingone
OK, what exactly was, as you so articulately point out, "stupid"?
First, we are talking about the 2015's and the 6.2 is no longer available.......so we can safely disregard that particular misdirected argument. In the 2014's and prior, the 6.2 was probably near the EB's capabilty as a tow engine --- but again, probably at higher rpm and one gear lower on hills........
And for the "war" between the 2.7 and the 5.0...........NEITHER will be available with the max tow option, so everything still applies as the EB being the most capable tow engine in the lineup...has been since they brought it out, and will remain so into 2015.....
Again, no one is arguing that the 5.0 is as good for towing as the 3.5tt - so move on. So we are talking JUST about 2015 trucks yet now you talk about the max tow as if it means anything in 2015. The 5.0, however, will be available with the HD package, which pretty much trumps everything max tow offers. This was true in the last gen truck. Another stupid point for Sterling. Tow ratings are actually pretty close between the 5.0 and 3.5tt, closer than the 2.7tt to 5.0
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Originally Posted by nihilus
Again, no one is arguing that the 5.0 is as good for towing as the 3.5tt
Thank you for seeing the light....and for 2015, the max tow is not available on either the 2.7 or the 5.0..... For the same reasons as the earlier years.....they are both lacking the torque needed.
And yes, I am moving on.....no more posts to this thread, as you obfuscate my edifying all too well.
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Dammit Sterling, quit using the big, fancy words! I'm gonna spend the rest of the day trying to figure them out.
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Just to add fuel to the fire. The snowplow package is only available with the 5.0. That must mean something?

I have 5.0 CC and love it, but my truck will be 3.5 eco. I see both sides of the argument but I am not going to have my truck for 200k miles so I want the most powerful engine I can get.
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Originally Posted by soonerjoe
Just to add fuel to the fire. The snowplow package is only available with the 5.0. That must mean something?

I have 5.0 CC and love it, but my truck will be 3.5 eco. I see both sides of the argument but I am not going to have my truck for 200k miles so I want the most powerful engine I can get.

It means they dont want you to damage to the intercooler while plowing. to many variable while plowing that could do damage from something pushing into the lower front of the truck.
v8/v10s are awesome for plowing they have that jump out of the hole that you need, where a eco boost i could see losing traction very easily because of the way it lays all the power down. diesels are the same, they dont plow as good as a v10 does IMHO at least. depends if you what you are plowing with. I am talking pickup trucks. some guys will argue a diesel plows way better but thats only if it is a huge heavy cab chassis with salter filled up and a length that isnt viable to do driveways with.


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