I need advice with the present-gen F-150
03-04-2016, 11:53 PM
#21
A coworker told me he used to work with F-150s fixing their torque converters and told that particular part is what I need to watch out for in an F-Series. I was told its the part responsible for towing duties (I guess when torque is needed to do heavy duty towing). He added also that this torque hasn't been change or that's what he only knew. Let me ask you guys is this true? On Ford's website, the numbers for a properly equipped F-150 with 3.5 EB is 12,200 lbs. while the V-8 is 11,000. With those crazy numbers is this torque converter going to be an issue? I did mention to that towing is not going to be my main purpose for a 5.0 or the 3.5 EB, but knowing they can tow without breaking a sweat is big give away for me.
03-05-2016, 10:28 AM
#22
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Never read anything about bad tq converters here.
Having an overkill truck is cool, but if the 2.7 gets, say, 3-4 mpg better and does everything you need it to, that's a decent chunk of dough over the life of the truck, no? I know i never use 100% of my EB's capabilities, even in daily driving. By the time you really step on it, you're already over the speed limit anyway.
Having an overkill truck is cool, but if the 2.7 gets, say, 3-4 mpg better and does everything you need it to, that's a decent chunk of dough over the life of the truck, no? I know i never use 100% of my EB's capabilities, even in daily driving. By the time you really step on it, you're already over the speed limit anyway.
03-05-2016, 10:34 AM
#23
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@Mo Power That's something I need to watch out for then, my father lets me drive his '16 SuperCab 4WD occasionally and I can say the truck is really light it has the 2.7 in it too! I'm liking the aluminum truck so far and I noticed yours has the 5.0 if you don't mind me asking what are you averaging in terms of combined MPG? Ford says this generation shed 700 lbs. from the previous, does that really pay-off even with a V-8?
MPG numbers are hand calculated...the trip computer (at least on my truck) is inaccurate. Ford notified me that the trip computer is not calibrated for 36 gallon tanks...only the 23 gallon tanks. Crazy!
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MrPauloAbesamis (03-10-2016)
03-05-2016, 10:05 PM
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I just got mine, but here's my two cents:
1.) 5.0 has a square bore and stroke (same diameter bore as piston stroke). Square engines last forever, why? I don't know, but they just do.
2.) There's no replacement for displacement. Yeah I know the turbos compress more air fuel mixture into a given space, thereby making more power per cu", but they're working harder to do it and turbos are spinning 10,000 to 20,000 rpm to do it. I run my 5.0 between 1500 and 2100rpm and the power is SWEET!!!!! Plus I'm a retired class 8 truck driver, so that's the range I always ran. (Detroits and Maxidynnes excluded.
3.) I love the exhaust note of a V8
So long story short, bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard, will produce good mpg and should hold up because of simpler design without the worries of turbo impellers dancing in the intake and exhaust manifold.
That's my two cents
1.) 5.0 has a square bore and stroke (same diameter bore as piston stroke). Square engines last forever, why? I don't know, but they just do.
2.) There's no replacement for displacement. Yeah I know the turbos compress more air fuel mixture into a given space, thereby making more power per cu", but they're working harder to do it and turbos are spinning 10,000 to 20,000 rpm to do it. I run my 5.0 between 1500 and 2100rpm and the power is SWEET!!!!! Plus I'm a retired class 8 truck driver, so that's the range I always ran. (Detroits and Maxidynnes excluded.
3.) I love the exhaust note of a V8
So long story short, bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard, will produce good mpg and should hold up because of simpler design without the worries of turbo impellers dancing in the intake and exhaust manifold.
That's my two cents
03-05-2016, 11:09 PM
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03-05-2016, 11:36 PM
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Makes no sense
It's got to be mis-information. With all the technology in this truck, the larger fuel tank not being calibrated just doesn't make sense. Just look at the giant leap ford with the Sync 3 over the previous generation.
I don't believe dash mounted mpg anyway, I always do the math myself and as a result get real mpg numbers, which incidently are lower than the dash readout mpg. (Regardless of the vehicle manufacturer)
Larger tank comes into play when your towing and fuel mileage drops into the single digits. 23 gals at 9 mpg = 207 miles. Ouch!!!!!
I don't believe dash mounted mpg anyway, I always do the math myself and as a result get real mpg numbers, which incidently are lower than the dash readout mpg. (Regardless of the vehicle manufacturer)
Larger tank comes into play when your towing and fuel mileage drops into the single digits. 23 gals at 9 mpg = 207 miles. Ouch!!!!!
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MrPauloAbesamis (03-08-2016)
03-05-2016, 11:50 PM
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In response to an earlier post about dead weight via the larger fuel tank, the additional thirteen gallons only adds about 104lbs. to the truck when full, so it shouldn't be an issue.
On the alleged torque converter issue, when towing, it might be smart to lock out the higher gears or use the manual mode to prevent the transmission from hunting for the correct gear, which increases your wear and tear.
I had F350s with 7.3 power strokes that we plowed with and we only plowed in first gear to save the transmissions. That combined with 20,000 mile fluid changes kept the transmissions intact for 100,000 miles before rebuild. At rebuild, the transmission shop installed computer chips that increase hp, torque and changed the transmission map.
On the alleged torque converter issue, when towing, it might be smart to lock out the higher gears or use the manual mode to prevent the transmission from hunting for the correct gear, which increases your wear and tear.
I had F350s with 7.3 power strokes that we plowed with and we only plowed in first gear to save the transmissions. That combined with 20,000 mile fluid changes kept the transmissions intact for 100,000 miles before rebuild. At rebuild, the transmission shop installed computer chips that increase hp, torque and changed the transmission map.
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MrPauloAbesamis (03-08-2016)
03-06-2016, 12:34 AM
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To add to the above comment about the extra 104 lbs. for fuel, keep in mind that this truck still weighs over 5000 lbs. My current truck is a 2002 Silverado 4x4 5.3 liter and it only weighs 5000 lbs. so with the F150 losing 700lbs. it still doesn't make it a light truck so I really wouldn't worry about it being too light.
I kind of wonder if the problem people have with being pushed in the wind is the steering. When I was test driving one I noticed that on center it seemed like there was a little bit of play in the steering wheel.
Mike
I kind of wonder if the problem people have with being pushed in the wind is the steering. When I was test driving one I noticed that on center it seemed like there was a little bit of play in the steering wheel.
Mike
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MrPauloAbesamis (03-10-2016)
03-07-2016, 11:08 AM
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I just got mine, but here's my two cents:
1.) 5.0 has a square bore and stroke (same diameter bore as piston stroke). Square engines last forever, why? I don't know, but they just do.
2.) There's no replacement for displacement. Yeah I know the turbos compress more air fuel mixture into a given space, thereby making more power per cu", but they're working harder to do it and turbos are spinning 10,000 to 20,000 rpm to do it. I run my 5.0 between 1500 and 2100rpm and the power is SWEET!!!!! Plus I'm a retired class 8 truck driver, so that's the range I always ran. (Detroits and Maxidynnes excluded.
3.) I love the exhaust note of a V8
So long story short, bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard, will produce good mpg and should hold up because of simpler design without the worries of turbo impellers dancing in the intake and exhaust manifold.
That's my two cents
1.) 5.0 has a square bore and stroke (same diameter bore as piston stroke). Square engines last forever, why? I don't know, but they just do.
2.) There's no replacement for displacement. Yeah I know the turbos compress more air fuel mixture into a given space, thereby making more power per cu", but they're working harder to do it and turbos are spinning 10,000 to 20,000 rpm to do it. I run my 5.0 between 1500 and 2100rpm and the power is SWEET!!!!! Plus I'm a retired class 8 truck driver, so that's the range I always ran. (Detroits and Maxidynnes excluded.
3.) I love the exhaust note of a V8
So long story short, bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard, will produce good mpg and should hold up because of simpler design without the worries of turbo impellers dancing in the intake and exhaust manifold.
That's my two cents
I personally hate loud vehicles and don't see a difference in how it can be cool when a loud V8 in a truck is just as loud and annoying as a 20 year old Ford Tempo with a 4-banger that doesn't have a muffler. I don't hear that Tempo and think "Wow that sounds nice, must be fast and powerful..."
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