Disappointed with my '16 F150 so buying another SD
#61
It probably isn't. Most of these trucks aren't rated to pull that much weight. Even XLTs often sacrifice towing capacity. Once you start adding transfer cases, crew cabs and creature comforts the towing capacity and payload suffer.
#62
Your right that tow capacity and payload suffer with options but the "rating" is still over 10k. Though most wouldn't tow 10k with a halfton often.
The 3.5 NA, 2.7 EB, and the 5.0 can be had with ratings under 10k.
#63
Senior Member
Originally Posted by duck93
Max tow option includes the rear sway bar. For those that tow a lot or heavy loads, I highly recommend the Hellwig rear sway bar. It's not very expensive, is a DIY install for most folks, and the reviews are great. There is another trending thread on the Hellwig, check it out.
The Hellwig products are superior, indeed.
#64
Senior Member
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...e_r2_Oct23.pdf
#65
I still don't "exactly" know what my book-value GCWR/max loaded trailer weight rating is. My F150 as equipped (2wd, 7000# GVWR, 157"WB, 3.5l EB, 3.55 electric locker axle, tow pkg [NOT max tow pkg]) is not listed in any guides I've found. It "should" be somewhere north of 10,000# however.
But I do know I should be able to make occasional tows of my ~8000# tow trailer (20' dovetail w/tractor, FEL and bucket, rotary cutter or ballast barrel) on 200 mile or so R/T's as long as I use a "good" (not Harbor Freight) WDH, which is why I downsized from a 2012 F250 reg cab gasser to my new F150 Screw.
Ford and others don't make it easy to get exact tow info, there is a lot of inconsistent data out there. We all want to 'stay between the lines' regards truck capabilities when we tow but at the end of the day you have really dig deep into all tow system elements to know what you're up against, and the water can get murky pretty quick.
Your GVWR is listed on the window sticker and on the safety compliance label. Payload is listed on the tire sticker. Ever wonder why GCWR is not listed anywhere? Too many variables, and too much legal exposure to Ford.
Ford offers some towing accessories. Ever wonder why they don't offer "Ford" WDH's? Same as above.
I should have 10000# or more max loaded trailer weight rating. But then I look at my tow package hitch receiver and it has a 1100# tongue weight rating. 12%-13% of 10000# is....above TW rating.
Luckily for all of us there is some degree of safety factor built into our trucks (and cars) as we all occasionally go outside the lines sometimes. I think of that every time I pass a small 4 door sedan with 4 or more 250 lb types in it with the trunk probably loaded to the max and think, gee I wonder if they know (or care) that their payload sticker is probably 1000# or less...
But I do know I should be able to make occasional tows of my ~8000# tow trailer (20' dovetail w/tractor, FEL and bucket, rotary cutter or ballast barrel) on 200 mile or so R/T's as long as I use a "good" (not Harbor Freight) WDH, which is why I downsized from a 2012 F250 reg cab gasser to my new F150 Screw.
Ford and others don't make it easy to get exact tow info, there is a lot of inconsistent data out there. We all want to 'stay between the lines' regards truck capabilities when we tow but at the end of the day you have really dig deep into all tow system elements to know what you're up against, and the water can get murky pretty quick.
Your GVWR is listed on the window sticker and on the safety compliance label. Payload is listed on the tire sticker. Ever wonder why GCWR is not listed anywhere? Too many variables, and too much legal exposure to Ford.
Ford offers some towing accessories. Ever wonder why they don't offer "Ford" WDH's? Same as above.
I should have 10000# or more max loaded trailer weight rating. But then I look at my tow package hitch receiver and it has a 1100# tongue weight rating. 12%-13% of 10000# is....above TW rating.
Luckily for all of us there is some degree of safety factor built into our trucks (and cars) as we all occasionally go outside the lines sometimes. I think of that every time I pass a small 4 door sedan with 4 or more 250 lb types in it with the trunk probably loaded to the max and think, gee I wonder if they know (or care) that their payload sticker is probably 1000# or less...
#68
I hope you run LT tires instead of ST on that trailer... because ST tires will tend to heat up and fail if you're doing long runs above their rated speed (65 mph) if you're carrying anything near their rated capacity.