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I am going to get a price from my Line-X guy to do my front and rear bumpers. I had the clear bra on my last vehicle and while it worked, it because very worn after just a few years and looked like crap.
I have been saying all along that this aluminum thing is for the birds... I would never buy another one.
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Well, since it seems these days the goal for vehicles is to get lighter for the sake of fuel economy...I'd say a lot of companies are going to be moving to using more aluminum.
Just an update on my rock chips. I bought the $15 motorcraft touchup paint pen off Amazon. Great product. It includes an abrasive tip to remove rush and loose paint, a paint "pen" and a clear coat. Came out great.
i also purchased a large piece of 3M adhesive sheet to cut my own bumper protector. I do the same thing on all my motorcycles. I plan on covering the larger exposed areas of my bumper.
I do agree that thinner paint now, for profit margins is a thing. I know that for a fact. As I see it every single day. So I do agree, that mil build can be the issue. Factory level paint, just does not have the mil build that you would get at a body shop respray. They put less on to save money. Look no further than your engine bay. Or in your door jambs. You'll notice that many of those areas are not painted at all. They're just e coated. Or, just basecoat, no clear coat. I know GM does not clear the door jams on their Equinox vehicles. Or at least many of them don't have clear there. Money saving tactic. Also remember the delamination era in the 90's? Paint was just flying off of cars back then, because factories thought that 1.8 mills has been working great.... Let's try 1.7. That will save us 2oz per vehicle X 2,000,000 cars = $$$. Except it didn't, when they had to warranty millions of vehicles for peeling.
I cannot agree however, that waterborne is the issue. If you noticed people will say that previous generation trucks do not have the chips like their current one does. Everyone in every generation truck will always say that their previous vehicle did not get chips like their current one does. This is common throughout all forums. Also, waterborne has been used for the better part of 12 years now. More than likely longer than that actually. Especially at their high volume factories, like f150's So chances are your previous generation truck had waterborne on it. I know for a fact that waterborne has been used since the early 1980s. Although it was not as widespread then. It has been used since then.
Aluminum has been used widespread across the Auto industry for years. The last 20 years especially. It's not going anywhere. Many vehicles have countless aluminum panels on them. Peterbilt has used aluminum since 1948. And I've seen an all-aluminum 1929 Rolls Royce.
It doesn't matter if it's aluminum or steel. A 1985 Buick regal, or a 2017 f150. Waterborne or solvent. Or if a robot, or Chip Foose himself painted it. If you are driving down the road, and a rock is traveling the opposing direction it will chip your paint.
Show of hands, how many have had their hood corrode over the past 2 decades? Anyone? Ford has been using Aluminum for their hoods since at least 1992, that's when I had a 92 Crown Vic and it had an aluminum hood. I still have a 95 Grand Marquis with an aluminum hood, not a spec of corrosion on it, and yes it did have paint chips in it.
I can also say that if Ford used WB paint on their 2014 trucks, it chips no faster than solvent based paint. I had the hood replaced after a deer strike and it was painted with top quality, I'm talking about paint used to repair Mercedes, BMW, Audi,etc. vehicles, and it chips just as easily as the factory paint.
I looked my new 2016 over, and I have had it only a month and already have chips in it from the crap on the roads. Small ones on the edges of the doors.
OTOH I have had rock strikes that left dents but not a mark on the paint, in fact my 99 F350 had a huge dent on the door pillar right in front of the mirror from a huge rock hitting it, and it passed between the two arms of the mirror, missed the windshield and mirror completely, but smacked the pillar hard enough that it left a sizeable dent, but not a scratch in the paint.
I can also say that if Ford used WB paint on their 2014 trucks, it chips no faster than solvent based paint. I had the hood replaced after a deer strike and it was painted with top quality, I'm talking about paint used to repair Mercedes, BMW, Audi,etc. vehicles, and it chips just as easily as the factory paint.
I bit the bullet and had Xpel Ultimate Paint Protection installed yesterday on the front of my Race Red 16 Screw. 4500 miles on it and I was starting to see chips in the front bumper and hood. I really don't think it's a Ford issue, here in Central PA there is all sorts of crap on the roads in the winter. Rose Detailing in Carlisle did the install, very reasonable and great customer service. Hopefully it keeps my truck looking good because I plan to keep it for quite awhile.
Show of hands, how many have had their hood corrode over the past 2 decades? Anyone? Ford has been using Aluminum for their hoods since at least 1992, that's when I had a 92 Crown Vic and it had an aluminum hood. I still have a 95 Grand Marquis with an aluminum hood, not a spec of corrosion on it, and yes it did have paint chips in it.
I can also say that if Ford used WB paint on their 2014 trucks, it chips no faster than solvent based paint. I had the hood replaced after a deer strike and it was painted with top quality, I'm talking about paint used to repair Mercedes, BMW, Audi,etc. vehicles, and it chips just as easily as the factory paint.
I looked my new 2016 over, and I have had it only a month and already have chips in it from the crap on the roads. Small ones on the edges of the doors.
OTOH I have had rock strikes that left dents but not a mark on the paint, in fact my 99 F350 had a huge dent on the door pillar right in front of the mirror from a huge rock hitting it, and it passed between the two arms of the mirror, missed the windshield and mirror completely, but smacked the pillar hard enough that it left a sizeable dent, but not a scratch in the paint.
For the most part, I agree, but I would not suggest it to be a non-issue. Ford has has some recent issues with aluminum hood corrosion as people on other forums have reported. Here are a few Mustang hoods with the problem. Ford Explorers also had the problem.
I don't want to spam too many, but that should give you the idea.
For the most part, I agree, but I would not suggest it to be a non-issue. Ford has has some recent issues with aluminum hood corrosion as people on other forums have reported. Here are a few Mustang hoods with the problem. Ford Explorers also had the problem.
I don't want to spam too many, but that should give you the idea.
Spent many years repairing that issue, working for Ford. It's the film that develops on aluminum that pushes the paint off. The aluminum will not corrode through.
Also this was an issue with contamination in the paint process at the factory. I repaired and painted approximately 500 or so of these types of jobs. Once repaired, it never happened again.
02-21-2017, 06:40 AM
