Active Park Assist option... Where's the button?
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CurryBob (02-15-2015)
#22
Don't really understand what you mean. If you're I mplying we/I don't make mistakes, I fully admit we do (sorry I didn't mean to imply we're perfect. Believe me, we're human). By no means are we perfect - and mistakes do happen.
But...when we leave the OR things appear ok...I'm simply saying that imperfections such as a seat or missing button/alignment should never be missed.
But if things go wrong internally with the car that are missed...well it happens and of course should be fixed as best as Ford can.
But...when we leave the OR things appear ok...I'm simply saying that imperfections such as a seat or missing button/alignment should never be missed.
But if things go wrong internally with the car that are missed...well it happens and of course should be fixed as best as Ford can.
#23
F250>F150
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I'm sure he has malpractice insurance. The point of his statement was that it's not acceptable to go "ho-hum the world is imperfect so I'll just scrape by and do things half-***". It's called holding people accountable.
Things will go wrong. Nobody is saying they're going to sue Ford or drop Ford as a future brand over one tiny issue. They are sharing information and seeking information from someone who may have had this experience. It's called communication.
I've had issues with my truck(s). I sought solutions on this forum instead to just driving into the dealership. In most instances, it either saved me a drive there or gave me a good talking point with the Service Manager.
I'm fine with people not caring about issues with other peoples' vehicles that they find important. I do however despise when those same people have to respond in a condescending way and make the person out to be an idiot for asking a harmless question.
Those are the same people that respond to every question with "Search the forums". That's fine, continue to stand on your pedestal above everyone. I'll try to do my best at answering peoples' questions because obviously it's important to them.
Things will go wrong. Nobody is saying they're going to sue Ford or drop Ford as a future brand over one tiny issue. They are sharing information and seeking information from someone who may have had this experience. It's called communication.
I've had issues with my truck(s). I sought solutions on this forum instead to just driving into the dealership. In most instances, it either saved me a drive there or gave me a good talking point with the Service Manager.
I'm fine with people not caring about issues with other peoples' vehicles that they find important. I do however despise when those same people have to respond in a condescending way and make the person out to be an idiot for asking a harmless question.
Those are the same people that respond to every question with "Search the forums". That's fine, continue to stand on your pedestal above everyone. I'll try to do my best at answering peoples' questions because obviously it's important to them.
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#24
I'm sure he has malpractice insurance. The point of his statement was that it's not acceptable to go "ho-hum the world is imperfect so I'll just scrape by and do things half-***". It's called holding people accountable.
Things will go wrong. Nobody is saying they're going to sue Ford or drop Ford as a future brand over one tiny issue. They are sharing information and seeking information from someone who may have had this experience. It's called communication.
I've had issues with my truck(s). I sought solutions on this forum instead to just driving into the dealership. In most instances, it either saved me a drive there or gave me a good talking point with the Service Manager.
I'm fine with people not caring about issues with other peoples' vehicles that they find important. I do however despise when those same people have to respond in a condescending way and make the person out to be an idiot for asking a harmless question.
Those are the same people that respond to every question with "Search the forums". That's fine, continue to stand on your pedestal above everyone. I'll try to do my best at answering peoples' questions because obviously it's important to them.
Things will go wrong. Nobody is saying they're going to sue Ford or drop Ford as a future brand over one tiny issue. They are sharing information and seeking information from someone who may have had this experience. It's called communication.
I've had issues with my truck(s). I sought solutions on this forum instead to just driving into the dealership. In most instances, it either saved me a drive there or gave me a good talking point with the Service Manager.
I'm fine with people not caring about issues with other peoples' vehicles that they find important. I do however despise when those same people have to respond in a condescending way and make the person out to be an idiot for asking a harmless question.
Those are the same people that respond to every question with "Search the forums". That's fine, continue to stand on your pedestal above everyone. I'll try to do my best at answering peoples' questions because obviously it's important to them.
Don't like the questions? Roll your eyes and keep the comments off the forum.
For people like me who knew NOTHING about trucks 3 months ago, this Forum has been unbelievably educational. Much appreciation to those of you taking your time to post responses.
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James Godek (02-15-2015)
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#27
Now, negligence....that's a different story.
#28
Senior Member
my 1992 f250 came with an extra wrench lodged on the intake just under the air cleaner..... shiiit happens
on first runs of a new body style.
hopefully the fix is a button and verification the brains have it all wired in
on first runs of a new body style.
hopefully the fix is a button and verification the brains have it all wired in
#29
Bubby4113 - I agree with you 100%!
Since when is expecting good workmanship, expecting too much?!!
Since when is expecting a high level of quality control, expecting too much???!!
Since when is a missing Active Park button, loose leather, rippled roof seams, ill-fitting rear armrest, leaking moonroofs, and misaligned doors no big deal!? They are HUGE deals and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong or petty about wanting them fixed. Your 700W Sony stereo sounding worse than your iPhone, is no big deal. The others are legitimate concerns that any decent business as large as Ford Motor Company should, and probably will address!
Some have gone as far as saying, "You bought a Ford that's massed produced so what do you expect?". Others have said, "There will always be problems with 1st year new releases.". Although the latter comment is true, I find it interesting how this form of asinine thinking is not seen on the luxury car forums in which I belong. I have never heard anyone get lambasted for having a high level of expectations for let's say a......$30K BMW 1 Series, Mercedes C Class, Lexus IS, or a 1st year model release. Perhaps that's why Ford lacks in QC because they have a legion of foot soldiers willing to turn a blind eye by lowering the bar and encouraging others to settle. To tell someone to chill the freak out and give Ford a chance to resolve these issues is one thing......but to tell (suggest, imply, insinuate) someone to lower their expectations OR to not be pissed or disappointed after dropping $50k, $60k, or even $30K is unrealistic and again, asinine!
In the past I have almost exclusively purchased high-end luxury vehicles and have stayed away from domestic offerings until now. The 2015 Ford F150, although not perfect, checks many of the boxes I am looking for and therefore I am willing to give it a shot. Do I expect perfection, yes! Why? Well, why not?
I will step off my soapbox with this, If you settle for less, you will ALWAYS get less than what you settled for.
Since when is expecting good workmanship, expecting too much?!!
Since when is expecting a high level of quality control, expecting too much???!!
Since when is a missing Active Park button, loose leather, rippled roof seams, ill-fitting rear armrest, leaking moonroofs, and misaligned doors no big deal!? They are HUGE deals and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong or petty about wanting them fixed. Your 700W Sony stereo sounding worse than your iPhone, is no big deal. The others are legitimate concerns that any decent business as large as Ford Motor Company should, and probably will address!
Some have gone as far as saying, "You bought a Ford that's massed produced so what do you expect?". Others have said, "There will always be problems with 1st year new releases.". Although the latter comment is true, I find it interesting how this form of asinine thinking is not seen on the luxury car forums in which I belong. I have never heard anyone get lambasted for having a high level of expectations for let's say a......$30K BMW 1 Series, Mercedes C Class, Lexus IS, or a 1st year model release. Perhaps that's why Ford lacks in QC because they have a legion of foot soldiers willing to turn a blind eye by lowering the bar and encouraging others to settle. To tell someone to chill the freak out and give Ford a chance to resolve these issues is one thing......but to tell (suggest, imply, insinuate) someone to lower their expectations OR to not be pissed or disappointed after dropping $50k, $60k, or even $30K is unrealistic and again, asinine!
In the past I have almost exclusively purchased high-end luxury vehicles and have stayed away from domestic offerings until now. The 2015 Ford F150, although not perfect, checks many of the boxes I am looking for and therefore I am willing to give it a shot. Do I expect perfection, yes! Why? Well, why not?
I will step off my soapbox with this, If you settle for less, you will ALWAYS get less than what you settled for.
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#30
Don't really understand what you mean. If you're I mplying we/I don't make mistakes, I fully admit we do (sorry I didn't mean to imply we're perfect. Believe me, we're human). By no means are we perfect - and mistakes do happen.
But...when we leave the OR things appear ok...I'm simply saying that imperfections such as a seat or missing button/alignment should never be missed.
But if things go wrong internally with the car that are missed...well it happens and of course should be fixed as best as Ford can.
But...when we leave the OR things appear ok...I'm simply saying that imperfections such as a seat or missing button/alignment should never be missed.
But if things go wrong internally with the car that are missed...well it happens and of course should be fixed as best as Ford can.
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