3.2- liter diesel...
#11
Senior Member
^ Thank you. The 2.7L EB hangs if not beats the ED. Why would they offer and engine ( I-5 diesel) with less power?
#12
Senior Member
I have to laugh at the naysayers a little bit......there have been a few threads on here about swapping a 4.5L powerstroke (roughly the same power specs as the 3.2L) that generated hundreds of responses and thousands of views.
IN all cases they turned out to be bogus claims, however, given the interest generated I'd say there would be more consumer interest in a small diesel than some think.
IN all cases they turned out to be bogus claims, however, given the interest generated I'd say there would be more consumer interest in a small diesel than some think.
#13
Senior Member
These threads are laughable.
After seeing the 2.7 EB completely leave the EcoDiesel behind and people still think a 1/2 ton diesel is a good idea?
Unless you absolutely put an absurd amount of miles on a vehicle and do a lot of extended idling a diesel just does not make sense!
Honestly, deep down I really think the root issue is guys just want to buy a truck with a "PowerStroke" in it, without the Super Duty price tag so they can brag about their diesel.
That's cool. Just try and keep up with my little V6 gasser.
After seeing the 2.7 EB completely leave the EcoDiesel behind and people still think a 1/2 ton diesel is a good idea?
Unless you absolutely put an absurd amount of miles on a vehicle and do a lot of extended idling a diesel just does not make sense!
Honestly, deep down I really think the root issue is guys just want to buy a truck with a "PowerStroke" in it, without the Super Duty price tag so they can brag about their diesel.
That's cool. Just try and keep up with my little V6 gasser.
#14
Senior Member
These threads are laughable.
After seeing the 2.7 EB completely leave the EcoDiesel behind and people still think a 1/2 ton diesel is a good idea?
Unless you absolutely put an absurd amount of miles on a vehicle and do a lot of extended idling a diesel just does not make sense!
Honestly, deep down I really think the root issue is guys just want to buy a truck with a "PowerStroke" in it, without the Super Duty price tag so they can brag about their diesel.
That's cool. Just try and keep up with my little V6 gasser.
After seeing the 2.7 EB completely leave the EcoDiesel behind and people still think a 1/2 ton diesel is a good idea?
Unless you absolutely put an absurd amount of miles on a vehicle and do a lot of extended idling a diesel just does not make sense!
Honestly, deep down I really think the root issue is guys just want to buy a truck with a "PowerStroke" in it, without the Super Duty price tag so they can brag about their diesel.
That's cool. Just try and keep up with my little V6 gasser.
Many of us who buy trucks don't GAFF about 0-60 times, and need something that's decent on fuel but can still haul. I can't put plywood, mulch, trash, building materials, etc in the trunk of my Chrysler.
With the demise of the Rangers, (which in their last couple iterations had laughable fuel economy), that leaves small diesels as a viable option. I know several people with V-dub TDIs, and I've never heard them carp about maintenance expenses, for someone who's a competent DIYer they're really not bad.
#15
Senior Member
In a state with many pockets of high unemployment, a statewide high school drop out rate of over 25%, and incomes below the U.S. median, yeah, we're very close.
#16
Senior Member
IF......and it's a big if.....they did it right, a small 4 or 5 cylinder diesel would be great economically. Especially with the new alloys of today. It's like the aluminum bodies that people don't realize have been used for other parts on truck for years. Nobody likes change. If I had the choice of a straight 6 in my 13 I would have seriously considered it. I do like my V8 rumble though. Lol.
The one thing diesels have that gassers don't at the moment is on the fly tuning. If they could ever get a gasser to change it's tune on the fly, diesels would have a hard time keeping up. Also to the comment about having a PS in their 1/2 ton......I like the sound of the PS's. I wouldn't mind it in a half ton just to get people to go "huh??"
Ford will not properly bring a diesel to the US market in the 1/2 tons while they still have newish technology in their trucks with the Eco. They need to recoupe the R&D spent designing said beast. I'm sure they have several designs for engines that they could use today, just without all of the EPA stuff attatched.
The one thing diesels have that gassers don't at the moment is on the fly tuning. If they could ever get a gasser to change it's tune on the fly, diesels would have a hard time keeping up. Also to the comment about having a PS in their 1/2 ton......I like the sound of the PS's. I wouldn't mind it in a half ton just to get people to go "huh??"
Ford will not properly bring a diesel to the US market in the 1/2 tons while they still have newish technology in their trucks with the Eco. They need to recoupe the R&D spent designing said beast. I'm sure they have several designs for engines that they could use today, just without all of the EPA stuff attatched.
#17
This is like the single most important thing on forums though. How else are you supposed to brag? I still don't understand the problem though. The Hemi offers that kind of performance, even better than the eco when pulling a load (as seen on pickuptrucks.com road tests) and the EcoDiesel offers the economy and longevity of a diesel for someone who wants it, they have both fronts covered.
#18
Still believe a larger version of the 2.7L EB, say 4.0L EB would be a great haul/tow truck engine.
#19
Senior Member
I haven't really looked at the 3.2 specs that much, or even what other motors are offered in the big Transit, but I would bet that the biggest reason Ford put that motor in there was because both the Sprinter and the Promaster are available with diesels.
They are trying to take that market, so they have to offer something that a Sprinter owner would be familiar with, the 2.7 EB might of been a hard sell.
At least that's how I see it.
They are trying to take that market, so they have to offer something that a Sprinter owner would be familiar with, the 2.7 EB might of been a hard sell.
At least that's how I see it.
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hydro (08-14-2014)
#20
These threads are laughable.
After seeing the 2.7 EB completely leave the EcoDiesel behind and people still think a 1/2 ton diesel is a good idea?
Unless you absolutely put an absurd amount of miles on a vehicle and do a lot of extended idling a diesel just does not make sense!
Honestly, deep down I really think the root issue is guys just want to buy a truck with a "PowerStroke" in it, without the Super Duty price tag so they can brag about their diesel.
That's cool. Just try and keep up with my little V6 gasser.
After seeing the 2.7 EB completely leave the EcoDiesel behind and people still think a 1/2 ton diesel is a good idea?
Unless you absolutely put an absurd amount of miles on a vehicle and do a lot of extended idling a diesel just does not make sense!
Honestly, deep down I really think the root issue is guys just want to buy a truck with a "PowerStroke" in it, without the Super Duty price tag so they can brag about their diesel.
That's cool. Just try and keep up with my little V6 gasser.
Problem with EcoBoost is you need to stay off the boost to get good millage. If they could get something like this diesel in the F150, that could get 30+ mpg, Ford would be way ahead in the truck war.
For the person that uses an F 150 as a DD and a weekend warrior. Hunting, hauling, and light towing it would be perfect.