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Old 07-30-2015, 07:06 PM
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...according to crash tests on the Scab, the drivers survival space collapsed and the crash dummy's head slid off the air bag and hit the dashboard.

The news report went on to say the supercrew accounts for 83% of all F150 sales. The supercrew performed well because it added steel components to the frame but DID NOT add them to the super cab but says it plans to fix the problem in 2016 models.

Also, it said that "the Insurance Institute for highway safety says it is more expensive to repair aluminum trucks after an accident but Ford vigorously disagrees and says you'll save an average of about $900 after a crash compared to the old steel version."

I just saw this on CBS News with Scott Pelly.
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They might be more expensive to fix, because so far only a few places spent the extra $100,000 to be able to fix the New F150's//Our dealer also owns a body shop and claimed that is what is cost them to get all the right equipment...
The S-cabs have no center post, either so side impact would be alot worse...1 reason we went crew this time..
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I think I read that the repair costs were 26% higher for the aluminium body. I also think that anytime you remove the B pillar, you compromise the structural rigidity of the overall cabin.
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I have a 15 RC, I am obviously going to die a fiery death then right? Eh I'm not so worried, before this truck I had a Samurai and before that a 78 C10. This truck is off the charts safer than them.
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Funny how those test are always done with the vehicle hitting a immovable wall. Most crashes involve objects the give and deflect away when hit, like others cars.
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Yep, labor rate on an aluminum panel is TWICE that of a steel panel.
Watch this video from Edmunds.




Originally Posted by KILOFINAL
I think I read that the repair costs were 26% higher for the aluminium body. I also think that anytime you remove the B pillar, you compromise the structural rigidity of the overall cabin.
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I don't see that we have enough info to say that the B-pillar is the issue, especially when we know that the non-crewcabs were built without those crash blocks.

Was there a big difference in safety between extended and crew cabs in previous generations?
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Originally Posted by T_R
I have a 15 RC, I am obviously going to die a fiery death then right?
Lol. That's not what the report said ,Nancy. Lol
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Originally Posted by gregsf150stx
Yep, labor rate on an aluminum panel is TWICE that of a steel panel.
Watch this video from Edmunds.


Edmunds.com Editors Sledgehammer Aluminum 2015 Ford F-150 | PART 2 - YouTube
I have seen that complete video a few times. What I am wondering if they hit say a new Chevy or Ram the same, what would the damage look like? That would be a true test. Just to hit it and say it cost more for this type of damage to fix then before is not totally a true account. Not hating just pointing out a flaw in their theory
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Originally Posted by VinceNC
Funny how those test are always done with the vehicle hitting a immovable wall. Most crashes involve objects the give and deflect away when hit, like others cars.
IIHS tests involve a vehicle and a deformable wall. It's the better of the two tests.

The reason that aluminum cost is turning out to be higher is because body shops still think they should be trying to repair the panels when in reality they are designed to be replaced.


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