2015 HP & TQ for New Engines (Numbers Inside)
#121
Georgia Tech
The word 'mandated' could be added just before the word "trend" and you'll have an explanation as to why industry pundits are forecasting that Ford's competitors are securing a source of aluminum to follow a leader with the courage that Ford has demonstrated.
+1 on your shareholder statement. Ford will take a short term domestic hit on earnings, but worldwide earnings are on the rise to compensate...and the 3.0% annual dividends are a nice supplement to cap gains.
#122
Senior Member
#123
If you don't think investors value that fuel savings innovation, look at Ford vs. Tesla:
Ford: Market Cap: $66B, EPS: 1.6, Two year growth: 180%
Tesla: Market Cap: $32B, EPS: -1.1, Two year growth: 840%
I bought equal shares of each about two years ago... Want to guess which one I wish I doubled down on?
Tesla: Market Cap: $32B, EPS: -1.1, Two year growth: 840%
Last edited by pfbz; 08-11-2014 at 09:53 PM.
#124
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but my September Car and Driver states the 3.5 Ecoboost will produce 380 hp and 460 pound-feet. Car & Driver states the 5.0 numbers will remain the same.
#125
Retired and loving it!
I wonder what they changed to get these figures (if C and D is correct). It would be fun to know if this is just a PCM reprogramming. If it is --- count me in line!
#126
Senior Member
Since Ford's previously announced numbers of 365Hp/420TQ at 3000RPM and the figures of 370HP/430TQ for the Navi & Expi, I have to wonder where MT sourced their numbers of 380HP/460TQ for the F-150? Those are huge numbers for a 3.5T engine. Maybe MT will be claiming 375HP/400TQ next for the 2.7.
#128
Since Ford's previously announced numbers of 365Hp/420TQ at 3000RPM and the figures of 370HP/430TQ for the Navi & Expi, I have to wonder where MT sourced their numbers of 380HP/460TQ for the F-150? Those are huge numbers for a 3.5T engine. Maybe MT will be claiming 375HP/400TQ next for the 2.7.
#129
Senior Member
#130
For all the griping about the 6.2 and people going to GM about it, I think it is getting dropped because it pulled only like 7% of sales, I don't know if that includes the raptor where it is the standard or not though. Whether it's because dealers or customers didn't order them or not, I don't know, but dealers order what sells. I think Ford has decided to stop the half ton arms race. If you want a 6.2 then you obviously must have substantial needs in the towing and hauling department and should be buying a super duty anyway which comes standard with the 6.2. Otherwise I guess look for the unicorn used 6.2 F150 for sale somewhere. As the trend is towards increased fuel economy, Ford will do what makes the most financial sense, which as a shareholder I really appreciate.
This is definately not true. The simple fact is ford purposely restricted the 6.2L to only premium trim levels. The average pickup truck buyer is working class and likely can't afford a $50,000 platinum, lariat max tow, harley davidson or raptor.
The bread and butter trucks like the XL, XLT, FX2/4, the 5.0L was the only v8 offered. Trust me if the 6.2L was available in the FX2 in 2012 when i bought my truck i surely was going to buy it. In a near 6,000lb truck i would always opt for the largest displacement engine available. More low end torque and operates at a lower rpm in most driving situations. I ended up with a 5.0L, but seems to me this engine was designed for the mustang and placed in the f150 as an after thought. Just not torquey enough for my taste but i do like the fuel mileage and the mid range power.