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Old 07-23-2014, 12:47 AM
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I think the 5.0L or at least a V8 will always be available. I know damn well if they stop putting a V8 in them I'll never buy another one. And I bleed Ford!

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Old 07-23-2014, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Z7What
I think the 5.0L or at least a V8 will always be available. I know damn well if they stop putting a V8 in them I'll never buy another one. And I bleed Ford!

Wayne
Amen brother!!! I agree, Im a die hard ford man myself, but the day they take the V8 off their engine line up, I will not buy a new f150. Id go look around for a used one!
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I wish we could ban MG talk . Who cares... If you want mpg get a little european fiat type pos.
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Originally Posted by Z7What
I think the 5.0L or at least a V8 will always be available. I know damn well if they stop putting a V8 in them I'll never buy another one. And I bleed Ford!

Wayne
fully agreed, unless they put an I6 back in (chances of that lol). and no turbos on it either.

I will not buy an F-150 that's not a naturally aspirated V8 or I6. die hard blue oval myself.
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Originally Posted by 2011LIMITED#288
I wish we could ban MG talk . Who cares... If you want mpg get a little european fiat type pos.
MPG is entirely relevant. it affects the total operating costs of the vehicle. yes its a truck, people shouldn't expect 40-50 mpg. however, striving for economy in order to save money is completely 100% understandable (or it should be you don't seem to get it). you know not everyone picked a truck just cause.......IT'S A TRUCK..........they picked it because they need one.


MOST people care about how much they are spending, most of us choose not to wipe our asses with money.
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Old 07-23-2014, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by modru2004
MPG is entirely relevant. it affects the total operating costs of the vehicle. yes its a truck, people shouldn't expect 40-50 mpg. however, striving for economy in order to save money is completely 100% understandable (or it should be you don't seem to get it). you know not everyone picked a truck just cause.......IT'S A TRUCK..........they picked it because they need one.


MOST people care about how much they are spending, most of us choose not to wipe our asses with money.
This is right on. Even if you are wealthy, spending money unnecessarily should be important to you. Heck, if you are wealthy then you likely DON'T spend money that way or you wouldn't be wealthy. In the same way it is important to know the MPG even on a truck.

For example, I love the hell out of the Ecoboost 3.5L. It is by far my favorite engine in Ford's current lineup as an all-purpose engine (vehicle specific it would be the 5.0 in the Mustang...). But it is silly to argue that the EB gets worse MPG when towing very heavy loads compared to the 5.0. For daily driver duties and no trailer though, the 3.5 has an edge. If you tow a lot and don't need the extra torque of the 3.5, you will probably save more than a few bucks sticking to the 5.0.

If the 2.7L provides near 30MPG Highway on an unloaded F-150, then it would make for one hell of a daily driver that would result in someone getting a truck they want for occasional towing and whatever but returning full-size sedan fuel economy which will make the truck fit better into their budget.
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Originally Posted by sterlingone
...I guess with the same frame, or close to the same frame for 2015, Ford is not willing to stress it any more that the current tow rating.

The 2015 frame is a totally new frame from scratch...different steels, different shapes, etc. and 90 lbs lighter. There's a lot of online info from Ford and the media with details.
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Originally Posted by WhyteLobo07
I completely agree with you, in the mustang its rated at 435 and it was 420 in the 2014 'stang, this proves the 5.0's are capable of so much more but ford chooses to neuter them so they can make the ecoboost engines look like the go to engine for performance, towing, hauling, economy. Nothing against the ecoboost but if they already chopped the 6.2 off the line up, how much more time can we give the 5.0?
The reason you are wrong is that, when you push for horsepower in a NA engine, the maximum torque tends to get pushed higher up the RPM range. In a truck, the torque has to be at a useable RPM. The 5.0's torque curve is already weak at low RPM in its current configuration. Increasing horsepower will only make that problem worse.

I'm waiting to see the torque curve of the 2.7. I'd be willing to bet that, at the lower RPM ranges where everyday towing is done, the 2.7 will have more torque than the 5.0.

And before the flaming starts, this is not meant to slam anyone's 5.0. These are just the facts about torque and why a turbo'd engine is superior to NA's for towing. Anything can tow at WOT and high RPM. But that's not where it is at in every day towing use. Partial throttle; lower RPM ranges.
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
...I'm waiting to see the torque curve of the 2.7. I'd be willing to bet that, at the lower RPM ranges where everyday towing is done, the 2.7 will have more torque than the 5.0...

I would also like to see credible HP-TQ curves for the 2.7. In the meanwhile, an author of an article for Driving (Canadian) states that he and other media observed a 2.7 delivering a near-flat TQ of 345 lb-ft at 2,500-4,500 RPM, the only info I've seen to date.
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