Originally Posted by 5land

justjimmy, was that just recently posted? I wasn't really expecting any significant increase in either one but with the slight bump given in Expedition trim I at least expected that small change in the Eco.

Originally Posted by Manuellabour247

I thought I saw something about the 15 5.0 being the same numbers, but it was from the beginning of the year and not from Ford. I'm betting the 5.0 will be the exact same engine with almost the exact same numbers.

By the way, the 700 lbs difference will be in the 4 door 6.5 bed. Just in case anybody is thinking they will be saving 700 lbs on a RCSB. Lol. That should make the payload for the heavier trucks a little closer to the XL fleet vehicles.

Originally Posted by kbass24emtp

Considering the 5.0 is getting a new intake manifold and new exhaust manifold it will probably get some hp and torque increase.

Originally Posted by Manuellabour247

I had heard that for the Mustang, just not the f150. I'm being it will only net a maximum of 20hp and maybe 30 in torque, but I doubt it. They will probably sandbag numbers again. Lol

Originally Posted by Manuellabour247

I had heard that for the Mustang, just not the f150. I'm being it will only net a maximum of 20hp and maybe 30 in torque, but I doubt it. They will probably sandbag numbers again. Lol

Originally Posted by 2013SCREW

Or they will increase efficiency and then tune it to maximize mpg's. I'd love to see the 5.0 outperform Chevy's 5.3 without using cylinder deactivation!! Then Ford can have the most efficient V8 as well as the Ecoboost lineup. And as I said before, I would bet that Ford is working on a new premium gas engine that could replace the 6.2 in the f250 as well as be used for those who want to spend way too much on a 1/2 ton. I wouldn't buy one but there are lots of people like Mr truck that would.

Originally Posted by 5land

" they went bankrupt because they are the largest automaker in the world and banks weren't lending money to people to purchase them" Really? So that only put 2 car companies in bankruptcy? That makes sense. Nice to see you are also a Wall Street expert. I missed Ford acknowledging they were "one month away" from bankruptcy. Maybe you could provide a link? The reason Ford survived (just so you know) is they were smart enough (when most of us thought they were crazy) to mortage the farm (including rights to the Blue Oval) years prior to secure loans for their restructure. That you can just google. GM is not the financial giant they once were. The 6.2, as good as it is, is NOT GM's savior. A truck engine found in 5% of your sales volume doesn't make you successful. You should go buy one to help ensure GM's survival.

So don't buy an Eco. You are obviously not the target customer (large volume pickup market) Ford is looking for.

Who said anything about "more powerful" anyways? Just cause somebody says a motor makes X horsepower doesn't make it the best puller or performer. Just remember please, I am not knocking the 6.2. I believe my words were "wonderful engine". When it does come in 2015 with their new 8 speed it should perform better both empty and towing. The fact is, the Eco, at nearly half the displacement, can run with it in a 3 year old configuration and the 2015 model with considerably less weight ( in crew cab configuration ) will continue to run with it. The overall performance difference is pretty small any way you look at it so being the admitted Ford fan I am, I'll stick with my measley 365 HP, 420 lbft (at 2500 RPM) V6. Thanks.

Originally Posted by 2013SCREW

Or they will increase efficiency and then tune it to maximize mpg's. I'd love to see the 5.0 outperform Chevy's 5.3 without using cylinder deactivation!! Then Ford can have the most efficient V8 as well as the Ecoboost lineup. And as I said before, I would bet that Ford is working on a new premium gas engine that could replace the 6.2 in the f250 as well as be used for those who want to spend way too much on a 1/2 ton. I wouldn't buy one but there are lots of people like Mr truck that would.