2015 epa mpg??
#61
#62
With the 2.7 4X2 Supercrew Lariat I have ordered, I would be tickled if it was 20 city/27 highway. Regretfully, I don't think the mileage from the EPA/real world will be that high.
#63
Senior Member
#64
Georgia Tech
I think it will be the other way around. Weight affects stop and go driving, drag affects highway mileage. Until they make the truck smaller or more aerodynamic I'm looking for the main increase to be in the city mileage and combined; highway will be a couple higher because of reduced drag and engines, but not really weight.
#65
I think it will be the other way around. Weight affects stop and go driving, drag affects highway mileage. Until they make the truck smaller or more aerodynamic I'm looking for the main increase to be in the city mileage and combined; highway will be a couple higher because of reduced drag and engines, but not really weight.
As an add on, it is easy to do better than epa. Just drive slowly. I don't do either, either.
#68
Senior Member
Ford is caught between a rock and a hard place. They have already been warned about using EPA mileage numbers that were inflated. Now Kia/Hyundai have been accessed big fines. Ford will be among the next to be fined if they don't adjust their numbers to realistic values. One hand has been caught in the cookie jar, while the other hand was doing something about actually legitimately improving mpg (aluminum weight savings). Correcting the cookie jar problem may take more off than they get back with weight savings. Going to be ugly for the marketing dept if they actually have to reduce EPA mpg instead of increase it.
#69
Senior Member
In addition to the Kia/Hyundai fine, as a Veloster owner I periodically receive a debit card reimbursement from Hyundai based on accumulated mileage to compensate for the 'error' in EPA mileage. The irony of it all is that I regularly equal or exceed the initial EPA estimates, but I'll receive compensation for as long as I own the vehicle.
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In addition to the Kia/Hyundai fine, as a Veloster owner I periodically receive a debit card reimbursement from Hyundai based on accumulated mileage to compensate for the 'error' in EPA mileage. The irony of it all is that I regularly equal or exceed the initial EPA estimates, but I'll receive compensation for as long as I own the vehicle.
Ronaka has posted his lie in other threads as well. The EPA acknowledged it was the test methodology, and not mendacity that lead to the error.