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Old 10-29-2014, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon
The inquiry was about CITY mileage and you're expecting over 27? Then, would you be guessing low 30s for highway?
It would surprise me if the city is 27. Oops. I do think they are shooting for low 30's hwy
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With the 2.7 4X2 Supercrew Lariat I have ordered, I would be tickled if it was 20 city/27 highway. Regretfully, I don't think the mileage from the EPA/real world will be that high.
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Originally Posted by BobSchuman
It would surprise me if the city is 27. Oops. I do think they are shooting for low 30's hwy
They were shooting for 26 out of the 3.5EB back when they released it.

I'd be surprised if they hit 25 hwy with the 2.7
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Originally Posted by primalurges
I'm certain Ford knows what the EPA certification will come in at give or take a mpg. 700lb savings should make for a nice increase in highway mpgs. I doubt it will do much to city mpg.
I think it will be the other way around. Weight affects stop and go driving, drag affects highway mileage. Until they make the truck smaller or more aerodynamic I'm looking for the main increase to be in the city mileage and combined; highway will be a couple higher because of reduced drag and engines, but not really weight.
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Originally Posted by aiobst
I think it will be the other way around. Weight affects stop and go driving, drag affects highway mileage. Until they make the truck smaller or more aerodynamic I'm looking for the main increase to be in the city mileage and combined; highway will be a couple higher because of reduced drag and engines, but not really weight.
I heard myself arguing with that before I realized that you have correctly applied the laws of physics/momentum and aerodynamics/drag.

As an add on, it is easy to do better than epa. Just drive slowly. I don't do either, either.
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Or have a taller gear. My truck with the 3.31 at 70 mph should get better mpg than the same truck with the 3.73 or 3.55 gear.
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Looks like MPG early next week!! (I bet)


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Ford is caught between a rock and a hard place. They have already been warned about using EPA mileage numbers that were inflated. Now Kia/Hyundai have been accessed big fines. Ford will be among the next to be fined if they don't adjust their numbers to realistic values. One hand has been caught in the cookie jar, while the other hand was doing something about actually legitimately improving mpg (aluminum weight savings). Correcting the cookie jar problem may take more off than they get back with weight savings. Going to be ugly for the marketing dept if they actually have to reduce EPA mpg instead of increase it.
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Ford is caught between a rock and a hard place. They have already been warned about using EPA mileage numbers that were inflated. Now Kia/Hyundai have been accessed (sic) big fines...

In addition to the Kia/Hyundai fine, as a Veloster owner I periodically receive a debit card reimbursement from Hyundai based on accumulated mileage to compensate for the 'error' in EPA mileage. The irony of it all is that I regularly equal or exceed the initial EPA estimates, but I'll receive compensation for as long as I own the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon
In addition to the Kia/Hyundai fine, as a Veloster owner I periodically receive a debit card reimbursement from Hyundai based on accumulated mileage to compensate for the 'error' in EPA mileage. The irony of it all is that I regularly equal or exceed the initial EPA estimates, but I'll receive compensation for as long as I own the vehicle.

Ronaka has posted his lie in other threads as well. The EPA acknowledged it was the test methodology, and not mendacity that lead to the error.


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