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Old 01-30-2015, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DemonGT
If you dont have a need to be able to carry big loads or pull trailers and MPG is so important why would you buy a full size truck to begin with?

comparing the different trucks MPG while towing X amount makes more sense to me.
Heck, he may be in my shoes and want a full size more than he needs one. I'm sure I could make due with a mid sized truck (Tacoma crew cab or similar), but you wouldn't get tons better mileage going that route anyway. And let's be honest, 95 percent of the full size trucks I see driving to work every day are hauling exactly one butt. I've been making it fine with an old Buick for a while (24 mpg), but you can only fit so much in the trunk, I've got some trees in my yard I need gone, and grass mowing season is on the way so I'll be needing to move a lawn mower a couple of times a week. I figure if I'm going to spend around 40 grand eventually, I might as well get what I want, right? And if one gets better mileage than the other, or is a few grand cheaper...it could be the better choice.
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Originally Posted by DemonGT
If you dont have a need to be able to carry big loads or pull trailers and MPG is so important why would you buy a full size truck to begin with?

comparing the different trucks MPG while towing X amount makes more sense to me.
Nothing personal, but this statement is just ignorant. I don't think it's too much to ask to get decent MPG's out of a full size truck even if you're not using it to tow all the time or fill the bed with...dirt or whatever the hell they dump in it in the commercials.

I like having a full size truck. My family and I fit better in it and its a good feeling knowing that if and when the time comes that you need to pick up that new couch or mattress or whatever, you have the ability. In the meantime, while I'm not hauling anything I'd like to get MPGs with the current technology that surpasses ratings from 30 years ago. Again, I don't think it's too much to ask.

That mindset where you think only people that tow should have a full size truck or people that haul stuff all the time should own a truck, and the people that don't shouldn't expect decent MPGs, is just archaic. The company itself, Ford, is advertising better economy so why not talk about it as an expectation?
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I use my truck mostly as a daily driver. I haul the trash to the dump. I may attend an auction and fill it with stuff I bought. Bring home an appliance or piece of furniture. None of this could be done with a car. A small pickup will not carry passengers very well. A full size truck has been my vehicle of choice for close to 40 years. The Platinum 150 is the perfect truck for what I use it for. The better the mileage the more I like it but I do realize there are limitations due to the abilities of this truck to do things I may never use it for. A steady 20 MPG would be great but I have never been able to achieve that in part due to the fact that I make a lot of short trips to town. All said and done I could not be more pleased with my truck and I accept the mileage for what it is.
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Originally Posted by Daytoman
So I was out fartin around again. This time in my RAM.

10 miles at 54mph average, no wind to speak of.
Can a 395hp, 5.7L V8 get 30mpg?

How about 31?
I wish I could have kept going. I couldve seen higher.

Now then lets hook up a trailer or put some payload in the bed and do some fartin around.

So far it looks like EB gets almost V8 power with V8 Mpgs as well. I guess thats fine. but still, ya coulda had a V8
Well, my EFI live tuned LBZ Duramax is averaging 19.8mpg over the last 5 tanks of fuel (hand calculated), so it looks to compare well with your average.

I see you like to tow with it, would you like to hook up to 14,000lbs and compare averages again?

Anyway, back on topic, I am interested to see how the 2.7 does in real-world and applaud Ford for bringing these options to market.

I do believe they will get much better mileage after break-in and cold weather passes.
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I love today's full size tucks with all the luxury items you can get in them. They are now also a SUV with a bed, don't get no better than that! More room for families and friends!!

I would rather have these than an SUV! They can do more and are as comfortable as a top of the line SUV.

I agree with BoozeDaily and Bikermike. Plus they have up their game in power and fuel efficiencies and that's why you see so many on the road with many that have never towed anything.
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As mentioned I think it's totally ignorant to assume that one shouldn't own a truck without a need for towing. I see it mentioned often. Also ridiculous for people to think if you own a truck you shouldn't care about fuel economy and if you do then you shouldn't own a truck. As a farmer I tow often, but I have some trucks that almost never tow. Most of the time for me owning a truck is about having a bed that can carry all the dirty tools, tires, dogs, supplies, or whatever. I simply couldn't get by with anything that doesn't have a bed for all the dirty stuff I'm always hauling around. If you have an outdoor lifestyle and a family of at least four, you need a truck. If you hunt, if you have dogs, if you have to haul around dirty stuff for work or play, if you do a lot of yard work. Chances are if you live in a rural area not having a truck will be at least a major inconvenience. I could get by with a small truck most of the time, but with a family I absolutely have to have a full size truck, regardless of my towing needs. With my lifestyle and occupation I could probably list 20 reasons why I need a truck without even considering towing.

And for fuel economy, all I can do is hope for the best possible. It is a major consideration because it affects my bottom line= $. even if fuel economy of one pickup on my farm is only a drop in the bucket for my farm expenses. Most people that are financially responsible don't just disregard things like fuel economy. I know if I owned only the 2.7 ecoboost instead of my current trucks I would save thousands on fuel over the life of my trucks. My only question is reliability because that also affects my bottom line.
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Originally Posted by BoozeDaily
Nothing personal, but this statement is just ignorant. I don't think it's too much to ask to get decent MPG's out of a full size truck even if you're not using it to tow all the time or fill the bed with...dirt or whatever the hell they dump in it in the commercials.

I like having a full size truck. My family and I fit better in it and its a good feeling knowing that if and when the time comes that you need to pick up that new couch or mattress or whatever, you have the ability. In the meantime, while I'm not hauling anything I'd like to get MPGs with the current technology that surpasses ratings from 30 years ago. Again, I don't think it's too much to ask.

That mindset where you think only people that tow should have a full size truck or people that haul stuff all the time should own a truck, and the people that don't shouldn't expect decent MPGs, is just archaic. The company itself, Ford, is advertising better economy so why not talk about it as an expectation?
A mattress will fit just fine on top of that mini van that has plenty of room and gets much better MPG.
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Originally Posted by DemonGT
A mattress will fit just fine on top of that mini van that has plenty of room and gets much better MPG.
Right on guy. You're really nailing these intellectual conversations...
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Just seems like if you don't haul anything and MPG is high on your list i dont get why you would be looking at full size trucks. There are plenty of SUV's and cross overs that will fit a family comfortably and gets better MPG, and most are available with AWD for people that deal with bad weather. Im just talking in general not at or about anyone particular BoozeDaily, if you can afford a '15 KR with all the bells and whistles and you booze daily i cant imagine MPG was super high on the list.

Now im going to head on over to the Ford Focus forums and complain about tow ratings...
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Originally Posted by DemonGT
Just seems like if you don't haul anything and MPG is high on your list i dont get why you would be looking at full size trucks. There are plenty of SUV's and cross overs that will fit a family comfortably and gets better MPG, and most are available with AWD for people that deal with bad weather. Im just talking in general not at or about anyone particular BoozeDaily, if you can afford a '15 KR with all the bells and whistles and you booze daily i cant imagine MPG was super high on the list.

Now im going to head on over to the Ford Focus forums and complain about tow ratings...
I guess you've got a load of pulpwood in the bed of your truck right now with a skid steer on the flatbed trailer behind it. Cause you're a manly man who tows shtuff. Lol.

Seriously, mpg isn't huge on my list, but it is on the list. If it wasn't on the list at all, I'd be dead set on a Tundra lol. Perceived Toyota build quality and all that.


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