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Old 09-04-2015, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenwire
As MB said, you can "level" it out as long as it is not too severe.

Now a question for you, MB. Is most orange peel in the color or the clear? I could see if it's severe enough in the color you may not be able to compensate for it with the leveled out clear.
Clear mostly.


Very hard to get orange peel in the color coat. It's no where near the same viscosity. But if you spray color over something with texture, yes it will show up in your final result.


Orange peel can happen by not allowing things to dry through as well. If you clear to fast after you lay color down, escaping solvents from the color will push through the clear and cause problems. One being orange peel.
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I would advise against removing any orange peel from a factory spray job. You will need to level the mountains (peel) down to the valley to flatten it all level. In doing so you will remove most of the clear coat that has the highest % of UV stablizers in the paint (upper 1mil of clear coat) and thus leading to a premature failure of the paint job.

An aftermarket job paints knowing clear will be removed, OEM does not. The thickness of clear coats is close to that of a cigrette wraper so you are sanding a very very thin layer and if you don't know what to look for as you do that process and the subsequent polishing you are playing roulette with the clear and your pocket book.

Can you safely level OEM clear coat and REDUCE peel yes, but its a fine fine you better know what you're doing!!!

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Originally Posted by Reflections Detail
I would advise against removing any orange peel from a factory spray job. You will need to level the mountains (peel) down to the valley to flatten it all level. In doing so you will remove most of the clear coat that has the highest % of UV stablizers in the paint (upper 1mil of clear coat) and thus leading to a premature failure of the paint job.

An aftermarket job paints knowing clear will be removed, OEM does not. The thickness of clear coats is close to that of a cigrette wraper so you are sanding a very very thin layer and if you don't know what to look for as you do that process and the subsequent polishing you are playing roulette with the clear and your pocket book.

Can you safely level OEM clear coat and REDUCE peel yes, but its a fine fine you better know what you're doing!!!

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Well, I've never had a problem
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so you reduced or flatten peel? How much clear did you remove?

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Flattened, 0.05 of a mil


Looks the same now as when I did it 3 years ago

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Flattened, 0.05 of a mil


Looks the same now as when I did it 3 years ago
.05 of a mil? (1.2microns) that was super super min peel removal. most oem would require much more than that so for you you were lucky.

When the riddler car was done this last year, it took 600,800,1000,1500, polishing to flatten the paint of a top tier painter in the world.

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Originally Posted by Reflections Detail
.05 of a mil? (1.2microns) that was super super min peel removal. most oem would require much more than that so for you you were lucky.

When the riddler car was done this last year, it took 600,800,1000,1500, polishing to flatten the paint of a top tier painter in the world.

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Approximately. The mil gauge barely showed any difference before and after. Measured by a PPG paint rep master certified. The peel wasn't bad. I've flattened numerous oem paint jobs in my 15+ year career. Also have approximately 10,000 + paint jobs under my belt.

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Resprayed under warranty for rock chips. Still in the booth, just removed the masking , 2013 Nissan altima. Customer complained it was too flat, it didn't match the rest of the cars peel, but still took it anyway.

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